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    [DEV Question] Why does Sprint remove Dualcast on RDM?

    I just happen to notice that using Sprint with Dualcast on automatically cancels the buff (was doing unsync dungeon and I decided to sprint to next set of mobs to use my dualcast and it removed it).

    After that I decided to test it on purpose to make sure I wasn't mistaking something and confirmed it does cancel it.

    Seems odd it should cancel it so I was wondering if there is a reason why using Sprint removes the Dualcast buff.
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    i'm not a dev, but my guess it has something to do with being same technical realization as ninja's Mudra (Ninjutsu). Ninja get their Mudras failed if any other skill (including Spirtn) been used while casting Ninjutsu. Kind of weird decision if i am right about this, definately worth fixing
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilentVoice View Post
    i'm not a dev, but my guess it has something to do with being same technical realization as ninja's Mudra (Ninjutsu). Ninja get their Mudras failed if any other skill (including Spirtn) been used while casting Ninjutsu. Kind of weird decision if i am right about this, definately worth fixing
    Hrm....interesting point, but Ninjutsu is different since it is supposed to be a sequence of signs which create the magic. You mess up the sequence then the magic won't work.

    I mean for instance if that were the case for RDM then Fleche or Contre Sixte would also cancel Dualcast but those oGCDs don't, but Sprint does. Since Sprint is kind of a side ability used by all jobs it seems like it shouldn't interrupt Dualcast imo, but it isn't a big deal, just curious why it cancels Dualcast and if there was a reason for it.
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    It's one of those little things I've gotten used to but wish I didn't have to. I feel they should work to make sprint not interfere with mudras or dualcast.
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    On a completely unrelated note why does sprint stuck so much? I have to click it 3+ times for it to work...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lina_Slayer View Post
    On a completely unrelated note why does sprint stuck so much? I have to click it 3+ times for it to work...
    Are you just clicking it early because you're used to pre-nerf sprint?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lina_Slayer View Post
    On a completely unrelated note why does sprint stuck so much? I have to click it 3+ times for it to work...
    I'll have to check, but I've often heard that it's not technically queueable, or no more so than, say, potions, which obey different queuing rules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    Are you just clicking it early because you're used to pre-nerf sprint?
    I started playing on StormBlood I don't think there was any Sprint change, it just feels so much more stucked than any other oGCD in the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lina_Slayer View Post
    I started playing on StormBlood I don't think there was any Sprint change, it just feels so much more stucked than any other oGCD in the game.
    it was diferent on arr and heavensward, back then sprint did cost tp, now it doesn't, and instead of have a 10s recast(i tink that was the original recast timer) now is 60s
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miste View Post
    Hrm....interesting point, but Ninjutsu is different since it is supposed to be a sequence of signs which create the magic. You mess up the sequence then the magic won't work.

    I mean for instance if that were the case for RDM then Fleche or Contre Sixte would also cancel Dualcast but those oGCDs don't, but Sprint does. Since Sprint is kind of a side ability used by all jobs it seems like it shouldn't interrupt Dualcast imo, but it isn't a big deal, just curious why it cancels Dualcast and if there was a reason for it.
    not saying it was intended to be so, probably just copypasting some code strings without afterthought. or, could also be balance decision, although in such case they should've mentioned ability cancel somewhere in description i believe
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