SE's housing system doesn't favor anybody...

[Tempest222]

Scarcity increases Value. Plots are not supposed to be given out to anyone who wants one, but rather to people who can play the game and earn the money to have one. Much like Savage Tier gear, you dont get to have it just cause you want it, you gotta work for it (typically). This creates an intrinsic value to having plots. Theyre not a 'dime a dozen' but rather a 'Hey, I got the cash to get this thing, so check it out!"
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But there are many people who can play the game and earn the money who can't get a house because there aren't any. I don't think anyone is saying houses should be worth some piddling amount like 100k gil or something, just that those who want and can afford one are able to get one. Being locked out of game content due to lack of skill/wealth/desire is one thing, but being locked out because there isn't enough to go around is ridiculous.

[Maero]

Well one of the reasons for the current system is they wanted a "community feel" which from the very beginning was really never there.
When are people ever social in the housing areas? I have yet to see it

[Syrehn]

Well one of the reasons for the current system is they wanted a "community feel" which from the very beginning was really never there.
When are people ever social in the housing areas? I have yet to see it

I guess that just depends on where you are. In my FC's housing ward there are always people milling about. There is an FC that has a Large plot beside us and there's almost always like 5+ people on or around our section at any given time, just from them alone. We also just had the small next to us go up for sale and it's another FC; their players have also been around a fair bit.

Additionally, there's another FC that's further down the ward that has players loitering about their medium plot and around the MB's and Bells in that section. So, depending on where you are, there can be a real "community" feel.

[SendohJin]

I didn't say anything about expecting them to go back in time and undo it all. What I do expect is them to move forward and fix the half @ss system they put in place.

How though? The OP has that expectation even if you don't.

Well one of the reasons for the current system is they wanted a "community feel" which from the very beginning was really never there.
When are people ever social in the housing areas? I have yet to see it

our FC does it but we were able to 3 small plots for personal houses around the Large FC plot. it would've worked if they only allowed FC housing and personal housing as something else, but like i said it's very likely too late to change that.

[LaylaTsarra]

They could do a lot with the improvement coming to apartments as they seem to have indicated with small, medium and large. Not everyone wants to garden and I think many would simply be happy with having an apartment that isn't just a carbon copy of a FC room. Apartments are in housing districts so they have the community feel once you leave the apartment.

It's a good first step. How easy it would be to add instanced housing along side the regular wards I have no idea but that could be another step they might be able to take by adding it later and it would go a long way towards satisfying the desire for housing.

[Tridus]

You do realize Housing is just considered optional content and has nothing to do with main story just additional content. So kind of first come first serve based on ability. Just like anything else can take time. Yes SE is aware that many people want housing, yes SE has made some progress, Yes everyone who does not have a house was selected individually to be ignored -.- right? No it's a first come first serve based on availability.

IF people really want housing and have an FC I'm sure you can ask for permission to change things around or get a room -.-

You do realize endgame raiding is just considered optional content and has nothing to do with main story just additional content.

We should take this exclusivity and expand it out across the entire game, since resources are stretched so thin on SE's servers. Once 5000 people in a data center do Deltascape, that's it. It's full, everybody else go home for the week. Crafting? Sorry, 350 other people already made that item, and storage is too expensive to let you make it too. Oh, we already ran out of our allocation of Starlight bears, guess you can't complete the quest this year. There's 10 groups currently running levelling roulette, you'll have to wait for one to finish before we let you start.

You notice how housing is the ONLY thing in the entire game that adheres to these limitations, and how completely absurd they sound when applied to anything else?

[akaneakki]

Well one of the reasons for the current system is they wanted a "community feel" which from the very beginning was really never there.
When are people ever social in the housing areas? I have yet to see it

On my old server, 3 fcs was very active around ours and we helped each other with the highest possible crafts, food etc. It actually was pretty nice, however on new server in kugane yet to see much of it.

[Tridus]

Scarcity increases Value. Plots are not supposed to be given out to anyone who wants one, but rather to people who can login within 45 seconds of the servers going up on house launch day.

FTFY

Much like Savage Tier gear, you dont get to have it just cause you want it, you gotta work for it (typically).

I hardly call going to the house reseller reddit and paying and inflated price "working for it". Quite the opposite. There's a perfect shortcut for anyone who doesn't want to work for it.

On the flipside, however, It is a system that seems to be gamed against people who are not as wealthy by a disproportionate value. As in the main problem is when people purchase 5-6 plots for themselves to resell.

Artificial scarcity creates the very side market and problem you're talking about. Which then inflates prices. Which causes people to simply buy gil to pay said inflated prices. Which encourages more gil seller bots.

[Tridus]

FUN FACT and common sense

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

this is not a F2P or P2W option for housing

The subreddit where you can whip out your credit card and easily buy a house in places where nobody can legitimately do so via any in game means today suggests that it's exactly a P2W system.

This is not Blizzard

Obviously. They invest money in their backend infrastructure. I mean, freaking Wildstar managed to have a housing plot for every single player, with more stuff you could do with it.

this is a completely different company than wow and better graphics in my opinion.

Which is relevant... how? The servers don't care about client graphical detail.

Everyone pays a membership, some just go to a more creative extreme to earn gills. To get mine I had to use vacation time so it all depends how bad you want it. They opened up new wards as well and people who took the time were able to get them. Not peoples fault if they are too slow or think they are special.

Actually, plenty of people were booted of by server issues when Shirogane launched, which is SE's fault. The entire rush was SE's fault. The problem now is SE's fault. The entire thing is SE's fault. YoshiP acknowledged that himself, he doesn't need you white knighting for him to pretend that everything is fine and it's the paying customers who are wrong.

[Tridus]

They could do a lot with the improvement coming to apartments as they seem to have indicated with small, medium and large. Not everyone wants to garden and I think many would simply be happy with having an apartment that isn't just a carbon copy of a FC room. Apartments are in housing districts so they have the community feel once you leave the apartment.

It's a good first step. How easy it would be to add instanced housing along side the regular wards I have no idea but that could be another step they might be able to take by adding it later and it would go a long way towards satisfying the desire for housing.

The funny thing about bigger apartments is that they're effectively instanced houses, since the interior of the house is already instanced. If they can do that just fine, where is the capacity problem that is so constraining right now? It seems like it's actually on the neighborhoods rather than on the interior rooms, in which case making the ward housing FC only and letting players have instanced stuff would solve the problem.

I mean, make part of the large apartment a patio that accepts outdoor furnishings and you've got a fully functional instanced house.