SE: if it aint broke, dont fix it (War)

[RamzaRuglia]

It is not ignoring the stance penalty. You have more HP in Defiance, and Upheaval scales off of HP.

Unchained simply removes the reduction from the stance. If you use Thrill of Battle before you pop Upheaval, you do more damage that way too.

You are totally ignoring how Upheaval works. Defiance is more HP, more HP equals more damage. So, of course, you do less damage in Deliverance, you've lost 25% of your HP.

Deliverance HP: 50,660
Defiance HP: 63,325

Deliverance + Upheaval: 4,723
Defiance + Upheaval: 5,956
Defiance + Unchained + Upheaval: 6,330

Deliverance + Thrill of Battle HP: 60,792
Deliverance + Upheaval: 5,385

Defiance + Thrill of Battle HP: 75,990
Defiance + Upheaval: 8,181
Defiance + Unchained + Upheaval: 9,763