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  1. #1
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    Aana's Avatar
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    Aana Azel
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    Exodus
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Lina_Slayer View Post
    I really think it has to do with some future boss mechanic it is the only explanation for a Warrior change, maybe there is a tankbuster that is wise to invul, but the boss goes untargetable before using it preventing Holmgang to be used, though if it was the case it seems wiser to just change the boss so I really don't know what the devs are thinking...
    I hope its something practical along those lines. But playing their MMOs for the last 14 years doesn't exactly inspire great faith in me when it comes to things like this. They have routinely used a blunt instruments over precise ones to address problems. Big pendulum swings. I'm to jaded to be optimistic at this point.

    However, credit where credit is due. 14 is MUCH better about balance than XI (and most MMOs for that matter) ever was. For all our whining and moaning, all classes actually are viable to play (Viable. Not optimal. Lern Engrish) in this game which is a frequently overlooked kudos. Even in this case, tanks are the closest they have been since they added a 3rd tank. Just don't screw it up now
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    Carlo Vinne
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    Faerie
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    Warrior Lv 80
    I can think of ONE accessibility change I'd like made, but it's on such a generic thing that it'd be easy to copy over to the other tanks.

    I'd like it if Skull Sunder could also combo from Tomahawk. It would help for those Red Mages that don't believe in using Diversion when they're using using the heavy Ver-spells on pull.

    But there's bound to be a lot of math needed to go into it so that we don't end up with some sort of daft "Tomahawk meta"
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    Last edited by Ekimmak; 01-07-2018 at 06:25 PM.

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    Gulvioir Muruc
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekimmak View Post
    I can think of ONE accessibility change I'd like made, but it's on such a generic thing that it'd be easy to copy over to the other tanks.

    I'd like it if Skull Sunder could also combo from Tomahawk. It would help for those Red Mages that don't believe in using Diversion when they're using using the heavy Ver-spells on pull.

    But there's bound to be a lot of math needed to go into it so that we don't end up with some sort of daft "Tomahawk meta"
    This is a nice suggestion on all tanks. Lets us build that enmity even faster if we need that combo. Though I do worry about that level 50 trial roulette with the hero off tank just spamming enmity being even worse.
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    Aelda Schuvorther
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    Lamia
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyth View Post
    Usually, people react to how you say something, rather than what you say.

    In the case of the WAR community, it's a bit like having an acquaintance who's a bit of a chronic braggart. It's not that you hate them, it's just that you sometimes wish that they'd stop talking about themselves quite so much. […]
    I know right, I mean just look at these relevant (relevant being last response is in 2018) WAR threads in the tank forums.

    http://




    Those annoying chronic braggarts.
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    Tegernako's Avatar
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    Crusina Luachra
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Xtrasweettea View Post
    I know right, I mean just look at these relevant (relevant being last response is in 2018) WAR threads in the tank forums.

    http://




    Those annoying chronic braggarts.

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    Halo kid

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    Tolby Seyfert
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    Its all good, as you can see the drk threads have slowed down alot. We've either given up or succumbed to a lesser form of stockholm syndrome to a class we like.

    You all enjoy your "usability changes", I'll just keep clipping gcds.
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    Aana Azel
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    I should have added a note. I don't mean to "call out" the 2 of you specifically. Just the broader theme of tank vs tank using the blunt tool of generalization to the players themselves which happens far to frequently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aana View Post
    I should have added a note. I don't mean to "call out" the 2 of you specifically. Just the broader theme of tank vs tank using the blunt tool of generalization to the players themselves which happens far to frequently.
    Fair enough. But I don't disagree with what you said really either if we're not talking about me specifically.
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    Halo kid

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    Gulvioir Muruc
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aana View Post
    ... Just the broader theme of tank vs tank using the blunt tool of generalization to the players themselves which happens far to frequently.
    Besides I think we all know what the real issue is here. Lalas...
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    Winter Sandman
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Chrono_Rising View Post
    Besides I think we all know what the real issue is here. Lalas...
    Don't be jealous of the master race.
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