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    Darrcyphfeid's Avatar
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    Kiraine Kalivarsa
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    Quote Originally Posted by NanaWiloh View Post
    I posted the first counter too this issue in my other post. The second counter to what your presenting and the one most likely to happen: Main in FC1 with a house. Alt in FC 2 with a house, the caveat being only one of those two can be the leader of their respective FC. In short your main and your alt cannot both be the leader of FC's that own a house.
    I was simply copying an older post to highlight how the new system, like the one it's replacing, is full of holes.

    There's nothing to indicate that you can't be the leader of multiple FCs, intentionally or otherwise. Quite the opposite, as mentioned in Point #3 of the second quote, if you consider that grandfathered people will, in fact, have accomplished just that from day one. Fixing the loophole/workaround would require Square to implement an additional check beyond the time of purchase - or multiple checks, depending - and we won't know if they've bothered to do that until the servers are back up and someone gambles, or until Feb 6th rolls around and the new wards open up. Given that most everything else they've done with housing this patch has been nonsensical and shortsighted, my money is placed firmly on the side of "they didn't even consider people might do this."

    If they do add additional checks, it's also going to have its own set of problems. Such as: What becomes of an FC house if the leader goes inactive and the only otherwise eligible character to inherit it is an alt of someone already in possession of master status in an FC? And ultimately still doesn't stop 1.) people buying up houses to resell as FCs some months down the line and 2.) using FCs to buy medium/large houses now and reselling them to people that own smalls later (since relocating bypasses the randomized purchase lockout).
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    Nana Wiloh
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    Lamia
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Darrcyphfeid View Post
    I was simply copying an older post to highlight how the new system, like the one it's replacing, is full of holes.

    There's nothing to indicate that you can't be the leader of multiple FCs, intentionally or otherwise. Quite the opposite, as mentioned in Point #3 of the second quote, if you consider that grandfathered people will, in fact, have accomplished just that from day one. Fixing the loophole/workaround would require Square to implement an additional check beyond the time of purchase - or multiple checks, depending - and we won't know if they've bothered to do that until the servers are back up and someone gambles, or until Feb 6th rolls around and the new wards open up. Given that most everything else they've done with housing this patch has been nonsensical and shortsighted, my money is placed firmly on the side of "they didn't even consider people might do this."

    If they do add additional checks, it's also going to have its own set of problems. Such as: What becomes of an FC house if the leader goes inactive and the only otherwise eligible character to inherit it is an alt of someone already in possession of master status in an FC? And ultimately still doesn't stop 1.) people buying up houses to resell as FCs some months down the line and 2.) using FCs to buy medium/large houses now and reselling them to people that own smalls later (since relocating bypasses the randomized purchase lockout).

    Guess we will see when the servers up but at this moment people even myself are speculating. As for selling FC's only way to stop that is too completely remove the ability to promote anyone too leader and remove the auto promote that happens in a leaders absence. As a FC leader I want the ability to promote both manually and auto to remain my Fc should not suffer cause of my extended absence should one happen.
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    Last edited by NanaWiloh; 01-30-2018 at 11:14 AM.

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    Ribald Hagane
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Darrcyphfeid View Post
    1.) people buying up houses to resell as FCs some months down the line and 2.) using FCs to buy medium/large houses now and reselling them to people that own smalls later (since relocating bypasses the randomized purchase lockout).
    Again, while these things still "theoretically" possible you need:
    - An organize cartel to do it or at least running multiple service accounts.
    - House flipping contain certain risk, the idea is always grab the house from the system at the base price and sell it at 2-5 time more than it's worth. I don't think paying 500mil for a Shirogane mansion to flip it at 1000mil is a good prospect. Why 1000mil you ask? Because I wouldn't risk paying 500mil to a flipper only to flip it to 600mil and earn a filmsy 50mil profit with a 550mil investment.

    There gonna be some left over-stock, any change will take time to normalize. But new stocks for flipping will not be created, or become extremely difficult to do so.
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