Thread: [Spoilers] The Patch 4.2 Discussion and Speculation Thread!

Is that Exdeath still hanging around the top of the picture? Why's he still there?

On an unrelated note, I hope they do something more visually interesting with the other 3 trials, Byakko looks kinda disappointing. Really looking forward to Genbu, at least.

EDIT: gaddangit now the image isn't loading properly, it was there once already... Was the patch banner

Story wise, really curious what's going to happen in Doma. We've wrapped up Ala Mhigo and a loose end from back in 1.0. Though I'm going to bet we probably won't see much of Doma until 4.3, since the dungeon announcement I feel we are going to be dealing with the Confederacy for the majority. This upcoming patch feels like it'll be more "Diplomacy with Alphinaud!", starring the WoL and some other NPC (Prob Alisae). Hope it's not a snoozefest like the early 2.x bits, but after 4.1 the dev team really amped up their storytelling.

Fractal Hard probably won't fit in the main story, but I am curious why we're going back there.

Four Lords I'm looking forward to, I enjoyed the Warring Triad arc. Not sure if they're considered primals or just slumbering gods awakened after the fallout with Omega v Shinryu.

Originally Posted by Tracewood

Fractal Hard probably won't fit in the main story, but I am curious why we're going back there.

The SMN level 70 job quest revisits ARF (maybe spoiler)

from a failsafe mechanism by an allagan clone machine to find the best SMN and copy them.

The allagan might did something similar to resonance (or artificial echo) since the job quest sort of imply it, with extra defenses of course after the last one.

Originally Posted by Wolfman88

May you elaborate on what you know of Byakko and any other FFXI stuff? I never played it so I’m super curious and excited about 4.2. My first thought when I read 4 lords were the elemental arch fiends.

Well, Byakko along with Seiryu, Suzaku and Genbu were the four so-called 'Sky Gods', four HNMs (High Notorious Monsters) players could fight in 'Sky', the floating citadel of Tul'lia. They were part of the Rise of the Zilart expansion but I can't remember if they ever had any real storyline or lore behind them other than being ancient monsters from the Zilart civilization (I only fought them once with my then linkshell, and they fully deserved the 'HNM' moniker ).

As for Tenzen, in a kuponutshell he was a major character of the Chains of Promathia expansion where he was a SAM from the Far Eastern nation that came to the Middle Lands desperate for help as his nation is being consumed by Emptiness, his katana containing the spirit of the avatar (FFXI's summon monsters) Phoenix, which vibrates to alert him when danger is approaching.

Although primarily a protagonist he did end up temporarily as an antagonist in a particularly difficult CoP main story boss fight, but he eventually is made to see sense and by the end of CoP's main story, apologized to the player for his actions. There is far more to his story but more would be a spoiler, but this is his history if you're interested.

Either way, I am very intrigued how his FFXIV counterpart is going to be featured, although he is stated as being part of a legend, so it's presumed that he's now long since dead alas. But I guess we'll find out either way.

Originally Posted by Theodric

It's Nero.

Really? It doesn't look like him at all (I thought it might have been that chap in the Ivalice quest line - Jenomis I believe his name was? (I haven't done that storyline though as I'm not a raider, so forgive my ignorance).

Either way, as the others next to this guy are all clearly the members of Garlond Ironworks, I doubt it would be Nero as he regards them with disdain (to say nothing of Nero's lingering resentment towards Cid).

Ah, right, that makes sense (I admit I haven't done Omega yet either - as mentioned me and raids.... do not go together, owing to a very bad experience in Labyrinth of the Ancients one time soured my whole attitude toward raiding that I won't go into). Hence my ignorance of that little detail (in hindsight, it makes perfect sense, given that superdeformed SNES-era chocobo from the Omega story (Alpha I believe his name is?) is also in that pic (I admit most of my raid story info comes from second hand sources like the FFWiki so it's bound to not always accurate), so therefore Nero's appearance does ring true.

Anyway, thank you for clarifying that Obsidian and Theodric.

From the MSQ preview, it looks like we're going to be dealing with Gosetsu and "Yo"Tsuyu's reintroduction to the narrative.

This could get interesting. Hopefully the trailer doesn't make the plot too predictable...

Finally been about to come back to the game and catch up with the story! Just in time for hints about 4.2 as well. I have missed this place.

Anyhow, I think it is unlikely we will see 4.2 and Yotsuyu be effectively a copy of what happened in 4.1 though I think there might be some similarities. I an see two directions it could go.

Firstly it might involve information Yotsuyu knew. If she knew important information and she has reverted to the mind of a child it might mean we need to find a way to have her recover her memories. It would also explain why she doesn't get executed once she gets there.

Secondly, her return might start causing skeletons to come out of the closet. Doma lived under imperial rule, acquiescing to Imperial direction for a long time. The things that Doma and its people may have allowed to have happen during that time to placate their masters might be something that is dredged up by Yotsuyu's return.

Either way I expect we will learn a lot more about Yotsuyu's past and what it was like before the first rebellion in Doma in 4.2. The other thing I think we will see start to happen is hints on the direction the story is going as far as leading to the next expansion (which I will eat my keyboard if it isn't going to Garlemald).

As for Omega, we will clearly be moving forward. Perhaps we will find out how the Allagans put him on ice or why the restraints aren't working. I have had a feeling from the first part that Omega has made two potential mistakes. Firstly, if his theory holds, he has effectively made himself the target of whatever 'power' to surpass the odds he believe we have. Secondly, I think it has made an error in judgement with Alpha that will somehow end up coming back to Omega's detriment. Clearly he seems to have annoyed the little psudo chocobo.

I wonder if Midgardsormr was the original Shinryu that spawned the legend.

I don't have many thoughts about the four lords. The main thing for me is I kind of hope they aren't primals this time round. I think it would be more interesting otherwise.

Edit: Apparently the Scions are in financial troubles and we have someone wanting to potentially hire the WoL according to the new Dungeon preview. Makes me wonder if this is a side thing or a lead in to whatever is happening in Doma. I can't imagine any of the people we worked with in the Liberation need proof of our abilities. Maybe it is tied to the Four Lords instead of the MSQ? That would certainly be different.