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    I still don't know where the Regular=Kefka came from, either, or at least why it blew up. There was zero hint, build up, "Checkov's gun" of any sort to hint Regula would slip into Kefka style, playful, mass-scale sadism and megalomania. Like, at all.

    "But Kefka was with the Warring Triad! Regula's story centered around the Warring Triad, too!" At this point, we should know the references and call backs are pretty flat in FF (like FFVII's Scorpion Mech just being a normal boss of Ala Mhigo), but W/E. We get the real thing, not a "call back."

    On that note, since Omega's jumped dimensions and worlds, what says the simulation we fight ISN'T based on the actual Kefka? It was a curious point that all the bosses we were up against in Deltascape were villians that heroes defeated in their respective stories. So, is Kefka being here more to do with that fact HE won the first go of his story?
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    The idea that Regula was going to be FFXIV's version of Kefka came about simply due to Nael's appearance in FFXIV 1.0 as a rough expy of FFVII's Sephiroth (both go insane, destroyed a city, summoned a 'meteor' on their respective worlds, both even had a 'waking into the flames' scene), and that Sephiroth being the villain of FFVII also matched the numeral of Nael's Garlean Legion (the VIIth). Because Regula was Legatus of the VIth Legion, it led to wild fan theories that from now on each Legatus was going to emulate the main villain for the FF title that corresponded to their Legion number and thus, players expected Regula to go totally insane with the Waring Triad and become a Kefka-copy accordingly (Gaius being the Legatus of the XIVth Legion was therefore 'FFXIV's own representative'.).

    Thankfully, with Regula that was not the case (and Zenos further consigned that theory to oblivion by hardly emulating any FFXII villain, he did not match Vayne at all and was too insane for Gabranth).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    The idea that Regula was going to be FFXIV's version of Kefka came about simply due to Nael's appearance in FFXIV 1.0 as a rough expy of FFVII's Sephiroth<...> it led to wild fan theories that from now on each Legatus was going to emulate the main villain for the FF title that corresponded to their Legion number
    I'll admit I was curious if Nael was a coincidence or if there'd be other nods here and there. I didn't expect much, and I still wonder if the tiger Regula summoned was another coincidence or a little nod to the Tower.

    Zenos...not so much in the vein of Vayne. Unless you count that he was the emperor's son with skewed ambitions, enhanced himself with the manifestation of magical energy, transformed into something vaguely draconian, and perhaps had his body possessed by a dark otherworldly force afterw ...Wait.

    I'm going to abandon ship before I start seeing shapes in the clouds again /ac "Sprint" <me>
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    If anything, I expect Emperor Varis to be the 'Vayne' of FFXIV.

    I'm still hoping that we get a 'Larsa', a 'Gabranth' and a 'Drace' at some point as well. I was kind of hoping that Lyse would resemble Ashe to some extent but the less said about Lyse...the better, I think.
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    I have a feeling Asahi might not check the Larsa box as closely as I want given he's not a natural Garlean, but I do have to wonder if they're trying to set that up.
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    Someone pointed out on reddit that one of the PCs in the trailer (starts at 1:52) seems to have a new hairstyle.



    Mei transmogs incoming.
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    Shower Thought:
    Just for gits 'n' shiggles, are we adding Asahi to the Elidibus Meatsuit suspect list, even if a potential red (and white) herring?
    Midlander, middling height, yadda yadda?

    I think I've room in my sachet for a few "Ascahi" jokes with my "Aulus mal Ascina" jokes.

    Ascahian jokes, if you will.
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    I just see him more as the person that was seen in the scene where the soldiers discussed about Zenos. (If he is a good guy) It could have been his moment where he saw how the empire tries to cover up the events and so he tries to change it. But still his grin makes me lean more towards him being a bad guy.

    Interesting things from the German trailer:
    - Yotsuyu talks to the mirror and says that it should show her who she is. Either she just want to see her image for the first time or maybe that is some kind of special mirror?
    -The scene where Alphinauds says that Gosetsu is a good friend is completely different in the german version. Here he says that someone wants Yotsuyu. (Sie sind hinter Yotsuyu her) I am not exactly sure why this is so different? The new guy also says that he will helps us after that scence instead of asking if we are alright.
    - In the scene with Krile you will hear two different voices. One is kinda unknown to me that talks about how they would be happy if he is still alive and the second one which sounds like Yugiris says that she prays every day that this would be true and they should follow the hints.
    - Hien is also worriered about Gosetsu saying that he seems different. (In the english version he kinda ask us if he seems strange to us) Not much of a difference but still leaves a bit of a different tone to me.
    - Yotsuyu says to Yugiri that she should not look at her so mean because she did not do anything bad to her.
    - Gosetsu also does not ask at which feets those sins lie, he just ask what the nature of a sin is. If its part of our body or muscle. There is no hint that Doma has sins themselves.

    I am a bit surprised how different some of those speeches are and how different they feel. Kinda wonder how the Japanese version is.
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    about asahi.......he beign so white isn't a bit ominous considering they said that the primals storyline will have some roots with msq this time around?
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    Asahi is likely to be an antagonist, I feel. He's the cousin of Yotsuyu and we know that her family turned a blind eye to her torment. I'll be disappointed if Doma's sins end up being linked to Garlemald itself as that would be quite a cheap cop out - though I'd prefer Asahi to be an antagonist over a protagonist as I want the 'Larsa' figure to be a Pureblood Garlean.

    I have my doubts that Asahi is the same individual shown clenching their fist in Garlemald's palace. Could that individual show up and expose Asahi as a fraud?
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