Thread: [Spoilers] The Patch 4.2 Discussion and Speculation Thread!

Originally Posted by Lunafreya

It sucks there's nothing on Elidibus in the trailer. He's dragging on to be super egnimatic. I wouldnt be surprised if his true intentions and a fight with him aren't solved by 7.0 at this rate.

I admit I don't know how they can continue the Elidibus plotline, narratively, while still focusing on the Empire.

At the end of 4.0, Elidibus unmasked himself, Varis went "HOW DARE", and then we cut away from the subsequent reactions.

Then we had 4.1's stinger, which had nothing to do with Elidibus, apart from the possible speculation among players about Elidibus wearing Zenos's face causing the rumours of his survival in Garlemald.

So now we can't satisfactorily show Elidibus or Varis without answering the questions raised in the stinger for 4.0, which was largely ignored in 4.1. What did Varis do with his outrage? How did he deal with Elidibus? Is he still simmering over it, or has he moved on?

Any focus on this matter will probably be in just another stinger at the end of the 4.2 MSQ, since there probably won't be time to handle it in the story itself. So there's little chance it would be in the trailer.

I fully expect Byakko and the rest of the Lords to be some kind of deiform. It looks like a rock in Hell's Lid behind the turtle grandpa boss is covered in omamori. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omamori
Which seem to indicate some kind of spiritual malarkey is happening. Like the stormblood primals thus I expect something out of the ordinary. The black/red aura he utilizes is reminiscent of two things to me immediately: voidsent and Ame-no-Habakiri. He is likely to be an exceptionally powerful kami, and given everything we know about kami thus far--they're analogous to Eorzean elementals and primals. Byakko's dialogue in the trailer is also interesting...
"Receive of me my fury, children of man, and quell it." "There is no turning back." For some reason neither of these strike me as particularly aggressive. It almost sounds to me like we're performing some kind of mercy, killing Byakko. The voiced dialogue as a whole is curious in the trailer, we even appear to have Nero speaking "SHOW US WHAT YOU CAN DO" which is ... odd to the say least. No other raid has gotten voice acting before! I'd almost believe this isn't Nero, but the other languages seem to have the weird tin-can effect that's reminiscent of Garlean helmets.

I also agree with Berethos that the dialogue played over Krile sounds a lot more like Yugiri than our Sharlayan Lalafell, but shrug. It would be the only time in the trailer they aren't showing the character as the dialogue plays. I also suspect that we won't be comparing Fordola to Yotsuyu's crimes so much as Gosetsu's to Yotsuyu. I also agree with unknown elk here that I think, eventually, we're going to learn Nero was "stay puft"-ing us the whole time. While we got a whole patch of Ala Mhigo in 4.1... I can't help but hope for some glimpses to what Raubahn and Fordola are up to during 4.2.

Originally Posted by Rocl

The voiced dialogue as a whole is curious in the trailer, we even appear to have Nero speaking "SHOW US WHAT YOU CAN DO" which is ... odd to the say least. No other raid has gotten voice acting before!

That's actually not true, we definitely had dialogue spoken in Final Coils of Bahamut. Especially during Phoenix and Bahamut.

Originally Posted by Yamimarik

That's actually not true, we definitely had dialogue spoken in Final Coils of Bahamut. Especially during Phoenix and Bahamut.

I'm actually beyond embarrassed I forgot this. I honestly just compared it to Second Coil and Midas rather quickly in my head and completely glazed over Final Coil.

I wonder, with Brutus and Hells Lid being connected to the Primal storyline, does this mean Primals are being reintegrated back into the MSQ?

Also, I had a thought about where the legend of Kefka would have come from, well, we've fought him, twice


Its not a reach to say Omega could have pulled Kefka from stories about Ferdiad