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    Blue is severly disadvantaged in RW and it's annoying.

    Losing every time on blue now!

    Just left the match with 12:30 left and took the 30 minute penalty. This wasn't as much of an issue when RW was new and there were good players playing, but now it's a lot of new players and blue doesn't even try for mid and just gets over run most matches.

    This discussion is not about how Blue can win it's about how tilted the odds are and it needs to be fixed. It's really annoying every time getting on Blue and people don't even try.

    At least make some change to the way the generator operates, I.E. the most living people inside an area capture it instead of a bunch of healers camping it and interrupting someone trying to claim it.

    Outside of the initial rush for blue it's rather annoying to gather CE tanks during a match especially when the other team is pushing. I know that you can try to assign people to duties but a lot of the time people don't even read chat. Would be nice if we can make the generator actually viable for blue in the beginning.

    Either fix the map so blue has the same distance or change the way the generator is captured please.
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    Last edited by Miss_Jane; 12-14-2017 at 09:11 AM.

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    Mid is important.

    Ye ok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss_Jane View Post
    But now it's a lot of new players and blue doesn't even try for mid
    Probably because more people have realized the middle generator isn't all that important.
    Useful? Of course. But not worth sacrificing half your alliance to go to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Probably because more people have realized the middle generator isn't all that important.
    Useful? Of course. But not worth sacrificing half your alliance to go to.
    I disagree with the sentiment that the generator is not important. I was sitting in a cruise chaser with half HP and no CE just now. OF COURSE you don't need it to win, that's not the point im making.

    I just think in its current state it's unfair and that you have a lot better chances when your queue is on the Ravens.
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    Last edited by Miss_Jane; 12-14-2017 at 09:18 AM.

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    I actually think generator is more important now than before because they nerfed cave tank spawns. Now you need run like crazy around the map if you wanna collect tanks.
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    People often forget that mammets both help you kill towers/cores and give you CE when you kill the opponents.
    Pushing an uncontested mammet line is going to net you a win much faster than fighting over the middle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    People often forget that mammets both help you kill towers/cores and give you CE when you kill the opponents.
    Pushing an uncontested mammet line is going to net you a win much faster than fighting over the middle.
    Pushing mammets is great until red comes with a bunch of cruise chasers and destroys your alliance...
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    6 units of ceruleam a second is worth it, since ur mechs shoudltn be dieing faster than ur gathering the ceruleum from the units generated.

    sacrificing 6 ppl to go collect it, instead of 2-3 ppl guarding middle just isnt as effective.
    Heck, if you're a healer, kitting 3 ppl away from objectives for 5mins, you're already being more productive than actually doing objectives yourself.

    It's about how useful you're being per person.
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    CLAIRE PENDRAGON

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    From all the matches I've played, it certainly feels like Blue is at a disadvantage, if not at the very least having a tough uphill battle to fight. I've seen them pull a win a few times, but it's not too likely to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cluebilly View Post
    From all the matches I've played, it certainly feels like Blue is at a disadvantage, if not at the very least having a tough uphill battle to fight. I've seen them pull a win a few times, but it's not too likely to happen.
    Yes when it comes to the gate coming down Falcons (blue) has a disadvantage to reach the generator at the same time in the same place, with the Ravens. Ravens side takes the stairs to the middle building leading up to the Generator, which Falcons can't do this same practice, because their is an obstruction of a building right outside, which Ravens do not have on the opposite side. This leaves Falcons a second short of reaching the Generator, because they have to take the hill to the front door of the Generator building. So yeah Ravens side has the advantage usually to reach the Generator first.
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    Last edited by Arazehl; 12-14-2017 at 12:01 PM.

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