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    Minako_Nightsong's Avatar
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    Minako Nightsong
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    Bard Lv 70

    Leveling Discussion

    I thought this topic was interesting but the last thread is far off topic so I started my own.

    At 62 my warrior is getting around 540k per PoTD run. I am getting 1.2 million for Siren's dungeon and about 485k for a Stone Vigil squadron run. Finally, I get 118k for a common 60'sh fate.

    Now needing around 5 million for a level PotD is going to take about 10 runs and usually runs about 20 minutes. You need just over dungeons and about 30 minutes each, and 12 squadron runs at 15-18 minutes each.

    PotD will take about three hours for a level.
    Highest Dungeon two and a half hours per level for a tank/healer including around 5 minutes per queue, three to four hours for dps including 20-40 minutes per queue.
    Squadrons will take you about 3 hours if you're a tank/healer and 3 and a half hours if you are not. (assuming ala mihgo earring)

    IMO all these times are pretty good for an expansion level in an mmo. My numbers are estimates from my own times and without rested or fc buffs. Dungeons can still be viable for dps because you can fill in those times you are waiting on a queue with these fates solo or leves. Squadrons are the most laid back of the three but they cost a lot of seals even if you loot the chest. PotD will give you the hordes and potshards and 2000gil per run as well.

    From my own experience, I start PotD at 15-40, Squads from 41-60 with dungeons tossed in if I tank/heal and at 61+, I do dungeons all the way and fill in wait times with fates in Fringes then Yanxia. I do my fates solo but very often people will see you doing these fates and it starts a chain people joining in till my queue pops.
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    Last edited by Minako_Nightsong; 12-14-2017 at 05:19 AM.

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    Canadane's Avatar
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    King Canadane
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    It's never been a secret that dungeons are the fastest exp.
    It's just for dps queues you don't get in them often.
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    http://king.canadane.com

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    Theodore Rosentretter
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    Seraph
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    Paladin Lv 90
    There's always Kojin Tribe quests to kill time while waiting for duty. I totally prefer that and sometimes a FATE with Exp bonus than doing PotD. Frontline Roulette and Alliance Roulette gives a lot of experience too (don't know in numbers but those are the methods I use to lvl up from 60 to 61, or if I feel like lazy leveling, to 65 and then spam the last 3 dungeons). Even in the case PotD would give good experience, is just a big no for me ;(
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    C'rysta Zeith
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    Hehe, i literally just made a post about it in the other thread. (^_^ )

    Quote Originally Posted by Aldora View Post
    I’m one of those types of players that wants to level every single class/job to the max level of an expansion and I’m currently in the process of leveling my Samurai to 70. I noticed while i was leveling my first job to 70, that you basically need 3 to 4 level relevant 60+ Dungeons in order to gain a level. Based on the (Bonus) EXP given by each type of content, you can basically get a level fairly easy by running the following content:
    • The Daily Alliance Roulette
    • The Daily Leveling Roulette
    • The Daily (Stormblood) Beastmen quests (while sitting in the queue for the next duty)
    • Running a level appropriate leveling dungeon (for instance “Bardam’s Mettle” on level 65~66)

    Depending on the group and queue times, you can get a level in roughly 2 ½ hours as a DPS. After that, i can run Ivalice, an Expert Roulette for Tomestones and spend time on other things, like practicing with the new Performance feature. Frankly, i’d rather do that then run Palace of the Dead floors, all night long. (^_^; )
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    Last edited by Aldora; 12-14-2017 at 05:33 AM.

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    Vice Shark
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    Samurai Lv 100
    You know what I found amusing that the other thread did not mention?

    If you wipe a floor in Potd, all that time you spent on it is automatically wasted. At least in dgns, you get your exp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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    Avatre Drakone
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldora View Post
    Hehe, i literally just made a post about it in the other thread. (^_^ )
    Don't forget to include the challenge log for easy bonus EXP.

    When I'm leveling a class(currently put that on hold since I only have 4 DoW/DoM - WAR, MCH, SCH/SMN, and MNK - left to level), every Tuesday I start with Expert->50/60->Leveling->Trial->Main Scenario(I know, people hate this, but it's decent quick EXP and a newbie bonus most of the time)->Alliance. Usually by the end of my runs on Tuesday I have the 3 duty roulette dungeon and Commendation bonus EXP from challenge log taken care of. Then I just run 1 or 2 dungeons to finish off the 5 dungeons challenge. I've passed on doing the Kojin lately, since I want to get all my crafters to 50 ASAP(only 5 more to go...and doing all 12 Ixal quests daily) so that I can use the allowances on the new beast tribe when it gets released and keep leveling the crafters decently.
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    LastFireAce's Avatar
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    Xitra Lunrise
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    Diabolos
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    PotD until lv31ish then squads until 51 then PotD/Dungeon until lv60 then PvP/Dungeon to Lv70.
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    Cecelia Stormfeather
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 90
    PotD also drops off after 60. It doesn't scale up, so at 69 you need like over 100 runs whereas Alliance Roulette will give you 2 million XP by itself.
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    Survivor of Housing Savage 2018.
    Discord: Tridus#2642

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    Player RiyahArp's Avatar
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    Riyah Arpeggio
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    Scholar Lv 90
    The dps leveling experience is pretty bad though. You spend more time at or below 60 for exp, or in pvp, that its not really an expansion till you get to 70. You don't upgrade gear as much cause its mostly level synced anyways, and you don't get a lot of practice on your new abilities.
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    C'rysta Zeith
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 90
    In order to get a good idea on how much experience points i can get by running the content i run on a daily basis, i kept track of all the experience points mentioned within the chat log as i was running the content. This is what came out of today's runs:

    Alliance roulette
    Wait time: 10 min.
    Total XP gained: 2.571.260 experience points (for a level 50 Raid in the Alliance Roulette on a Level 65 Samurai)

    Chat log:

    You gain 33545 (+133%) experience points. (Defeating the Angra Mainyu)
    You gain 53682 (+133%) experience points. (Defeating the Hydra)
    You gain 80523 (+133%) experience points. (Defeating Cerberus)
    You gain 201310 (+133%) experience points. (Defeating the Cloud of Darkness)

    A bonus of 2,202,200 experience points and 9,900 gil has been awarded for using the duty roulette. (Finishing the World of Darkness Raid with the daily bonus)


    In addition to that, i got XP from the Challenge log:

    Challenge log entry “Exercising the Right” complete! You gain 388800 experience points.

    Afterwards, i worked on getting the Stormblood Beastmen quests done:

    “Pleasure Doing Business” complete! You gain 306652 experience points.
    “Deep Turquoise Sea” complete! You gain 306652 experience points.
    “No, Not the Boo Box” complete! You gain 306652 experience points.

    Leveling roulette
    Wait time: 15 min.
    Total XP gained: 2.828.474 experience points (for a level 63 Dungeon in the Leveling Roulette on a Level 65/66 Samurai)

    Chat log:

    Shisui of the Violet Tides has begun.
    You gain 22326 (+118%) experience points.
    You gain 22326 (+118%) experience points.
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    You gain 239134 (+118%) experience points. (1st Boss)

    You gain 22326 (+118%) experience points.
    You attain level 66!
    You learn Hissatsu: Seigan.
    You gain 22333 (+118%) experience points.
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    You gain 368759 (+118%) experience points. (2nd Boss)

    You gain 44669 (+118%) experience points. <-- the big crab after the 2nd boss.
    You gain 22333 (+118%) experience points.
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    You gain 643661 (+118%) experience points. (Final Boss)

    A bonus of 817,700 experience points and 6,060 gil has been awarded for using the duty roulette.


    At this point, i've only spend a little over 1 hour in-game and got 6.708.490 experience points.

    Later that night i queued up for a level relevant dungeon:

    Bardam's Mettle
    Wait time: 30 min.
    Total XP gained: 2.431.680 experience points. (for a level 65 Dungeon in the Leveling Roulette on a Level 66 Samurai with a new adventurer bonus)

    Chat log:

    You gain 26632 (+118%) experience points.
    You gain 26632 (+118%) experience points.
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    You gain 26632 (+118%) experience points.
    You gain 26632 (+118%) experience points.
    You gain 26632 (+118%) experience points.
    You gain 26632 (+118%) experience points.
    You gain 26632 (+118%) experience points.
    You gain 269288 (+118%) experience points. (1st Boss)

    You gain 26632 (+118%) experience points.
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    You gain 39982 (+118%) experience points.
    You gain 26632 (+118%) experience points.
    You gain 39982 (+118%) experience points. <-- the big Zu within the pack.
    You gain 26632 (+118%) experience points.
    You gain 384845 (+103%) experience points. (2nd Boss)

    You gain 26632 (+118%) experience points.
    You gain 26632 (+118%) experience points.
    You gain 26632 (+118%) experience points.
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    You gain 655463 (+103%) experience points. (Final Boss)

    A bonus of 110,000 experience points and 6,000 gil has been awarded for swift first-time completion of duty objectives.


    Basically in a little over 2 hours of playtime (including the queue times), i've managed to collect 9.140.170 experience points by running the Alliance Roulette, Leveling roulette, Bardam's Mettle as well working on the Beastmen Daily Quests.
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    Last edited by Aldora; 12-14-2017 at 08:50 AM. Reason: Fixed my math

    Credit goes to Niqo'te for her fabulous art in the "Nique's happy fun time!"-thread and Nix/Capa for the Caitlyn drawing to the right. \(^_^ )/
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