Dark Knight and Incoming Live Letter 4.2 on 12/15/17

[Chrono_Rising]

I gotta say, thanks for the chuckle this morning lol

I'm glad!

Definitely would need to play the other 2 to feel the difference. And what Chronos is trying to point out, you might feel decent in mitigation as DRK with TBN but it's costing you in DPS (more TBN = less Dark Arts). But if you do more DA it's costing you mitigation, etc etc

This 100%. People can quibble about exactly what set of circumstances will turn it into a small gain or loss, but lets not get bogged down by those details. Here's the deal no other active mitigation comes with such a set of circumstances to make its active mitigation a gain. As a paladin main tank or off tank I will frequently pop off sheltron just to get shield swipe for a 150 potency gain. If I find myself on warrior in defiance I will pop off Inner Beast just because it is a dps gain to use when in defiance, granted as an off tank this will never happen. It is only dark knight which has a web of conditionals to when TBN will be worth using if it will pop. Given that it has the inherent risk of not popping this web of conditionals just should not exist, this should just be a gain like every other active mitigation.

It is like they actively made dark arts = 140 potency, then promptly forgot this opportunity cost when designing the rest of dark Knight's kit.

[RLofOBFL]

I am super sad DRK is being ignored but I really enjoy playing it so I can't just boycott it.... x.x

I main all 3 tanks, and after messing around A LOT in savage, I actually think DRK mitigation is pretty good if you use TBN almost on CD and figure out the proper times where it will actually pop, it's even.chunky dps gain if it crits/dhs/or is used during a buff window. Dark Mind is useful in 3/4 Savage content so I can't really give an honest opinion but perhaps it should be all damage, but remove the DA effect.
Though Its damage is slightly lacking, not as bad as I originally thought, but still somewhat noticeable. Honestly DRK could be set with just some small damage buff on its main combo, but I'd welcome any changes, such as a shake it off/veil equivalent.

[Aadrian1234]

I just want to hear their reasoning on why SE thinks that DRK is ok right now. Of course, I think there's more than enough proof to prove otherwise, but I want to hear their side of the story, so we actually have something to dispute instead of being shot down. I just want to know why WAR has more focus when DRK is struggling as much as it is.

[Claire_Pendragon]

I just want to hear their reasoning on why SE thinks that DRK is ok right now. Of course, I think there's more than enough proof to prove otherwise, but I want to hear their side of the story, so we actually have something to dispute instead of being shot down. I just want to know why WAR has more focus when DRK is struggling as much as it is.

They have said, but werent very clear or good at explaining their answer.

We can only assume they mean that since DRK is "capable" of beating the hardest content, and ppl actually brought DRK there, that there isnt enough bias against DRK to justify changing it.
Next is that more people play DRK than WAR, which means there's not much reason to adjust DRK, but instead the job people play less.

The only questionable thig, is that while SE has said "if its good enough to clear content, its good enough" they still made adjustments to those jobs in the past, which id odd they havent now.
Plus even if they ignored DRK, it would have been fine, if the other job competing with it, wasnt being messed with in the mean time.

[Wintersandman]

I am so confused by SE. There are countless threads about people saying how bad DRK is in comparison. SE's justification is DRK clears all content so it is ok, but then WAR who has also cleared all content gets adjustments.

[garret_hawke]

Its been growing on me in the last few days (and the radio silence of the dev dont help me) but could this be a conspiration from SE to turn drk into a dps so they only have to balance 2 tanks because they realize they cant balance 3?
ps I'm not a dps wanting to play drk atm i mostly pld because i feel bad for bringing my drk in content even in dungeon.

[Lina_Slayer]

Its been growing on me in the last few days (and the radio silence of the dev dont help me) but could this be a conspiration from SE to turn drk into a dps so they only have to balance 2 tanks because they realize they cant balance 3?
ps I'm not a dps wanting to play drk atm i mostly pld because i feel bad for bringing my drk in content even in dungeon.

DPS balance is much, much worse...

[FallenWings]

Its been growing on me in the last few days (and the radio silence of the dev dont help me) but could this be a conspiration from SE to turn drk into a dps so they only have to balance 2 tanks because they realize they cant balance 3?
ps I'm not a dps wanting to play drk atm i mostly pld because i feel bad for bringing my drk in content even in dungeon.

Honestly. If they did that then I will on the spot quit this game. Not only did they fail the tanks with not delivering tank balance in lieu of a new tank, but end up TAKING one away?
You take one that away that was really really cool in it's theme and leave tanks with boring generic theme of "Shields, shields, shields!"? So that DPS players will literally have every popular flavour they can dip into?

Final DPS 14
A DPS Reborn.

[NozDeathlos]

@Cabalabob, @Chrono_Rising, @whiskeybravo

thanks for the explanation, I am starting to see what is everyone talking about!

[Reapestlife]

Actually I was wondering the same thing. And I wouldn't quit to be honest. I think it'd be a blast if DRK went DPS. Class lore wise they should be from a FF perspective. I love the class and the concept to death so I'm good either way they go!