Dark Knight suggestions/request

[Chrono_Rising]

What SE will actually give you: Parry Rate increased by 5% on a new combo with no additional resource gain and bad damage lol.

Have you seen dark passenger? Your suggestion is still too good.

[Altan_Haragin]

Yeah sadly it’s hard to justify using dark passenger. It feels a little dated and it’s mp cost is definitely too high to justify using it, except for rare occasions. Especially with dark arts.

[TabrisOmbrelame]

Yeah sadly it’s hard to justify using dark passenger. It feels a little dated and it’s mp cost is definitely too high to justify using it, except for rare occasions. Especially with dark arts.

Hard to justify the use, but easy to not even drag the skill in your skill bar. I don't even use it on pack, i got my preference to have some mana on me cause Dark passenger Dark arts vs 4 abyssal drain. The choice is easy lol

[WhyAmIHere]

I'd like them to even mention DRK during the live letter, even if it's in a "We're gonna keep balancing the tanks, please look forward to it" kind of comment.

[RLofOBFL]

Dark Passenger is the farthest thing from bad. DA DP is 500 potency OGCD on 2 enemies, which is actually very powerful for the cost. If a DA is worth 140 potency, DA DP is worth 500 vs 280 potency if spent on 2 DA attacks. I am glad DP isn't useful on ST bc honestly I am running out of buttons for DRK as it is.

Anyway If they did add a third combo end, I do like the idea of a speed buff, as someone said, to differentiate it from PLD and make it unique(and more fun).

[ArianeEwah]

Dark Passenger is the farthest thing from bad. DA DP is 500 potency OGCD on 2 enemies, which is actually very powerful for the cost. If a DA is worth 140 potency, DA DP is worth 500 vs 280 potency if spent on 2 DA attacks. I am glad DP isn't useful on ST bc honestly I am running out of buttons for DRK as it is.

I don't like the idea of an oGCD skill only being useful in certain situations.
This raid tier is even worse for DP, because you only have one situation where DA DP is actually worth: O3s last add phase! If you manage hit Halicarnassus, the giant and all 6 ninjas it is indeed quite the damage potential.

BUT! DP is only usefull when combined with DA. Abyssal Drain is still better than DP - despite being an oGCD - because its cost are nearly half of DP.

In the end non-DA DP is never worth, due to high cost, low potency; DA DP is only worth at 3+ mobs.
DP is an oGCD and for that it is pretty weak. (Just a cost reduction could even make it worth single target.)

Btw how are you running out of buttons as DRK, but not as PLD? My PLD hotbar is full of skills!

[Chrono_Rising]

I don't like the idea of an oGCD skill only being useful in certain situations.
This raid tier is even worse for DP, because you only have one situation where DA DP is actually worth: O3s last add phase! If you manage hit Halicarnassus, the giant and all 6 ninjas it is indeed quite the damage potential.

To just add to this, not only is it not useful, but in single target situations there are 5 buttons that are really doing nothing for Dark Knights, I don't see why dark passenger should be one of them.

Looking at the top 50 for Ultimate tier and the first dark knight is at 48, this doesn't look good. They need to adjust our potency and rethink how many oGCD's they took away.

[Daniel_Fury]

This raid tier is even worse for DP, because you only have one situation where DA DP is actually worth: O3s last add phase! If you manage hit Halicarnassus, the giant and all 6 ninjas it is indeed quite the damage potential.

BUT! DP is only usefull when combined with DA. Abyssal Drain is still better than DP - despite being an oGCD - because its cost are nearly half of DP.

In the end non-DA DP is never worth, due to high cost, low potency; DA DP is only worth at 3+ mobs.
DP is an oGCD and for that it is pretty weak. (Just a cost reduction could even make it worth single target.)

Non da DP on 2 enemies is still 200 pot vs. DA 140 pot for the same cost so it is worth it but using DA is just better considering how rare add phases are.

It's worth noting that you can squeeze it on neo exdeath during every meteor phase as well.
It's also incredibly good in Shinryu's first phase with tails/heart, although shinryu ain't raid.

[347SPECTRE]

Dark Passenger is the farthest thing from bad. DA DP is 500 potency OGCD on 2 enemies, which is actually very powerful for the cost. If a DA is worth 140 potency, DA DP is worth 500 vs 280 potency if spent on 2 DA attacks. I am glad DP isn't useful on ST bc honestly I am running out of buttons for DRK as it is.

The cost doesn't justify its use, even in AoE situations. It eats up HALF our MP when used with DA and a quarter without, that cost is way too high for what it does. Also not sure how you're running out of buttons on DRK, PLD uses more buttons than both DRK and WAR.
Without DP slotted I have 3 free spots on DRK, I have 4 free spaces on WAR, and ONE free space on PLD, which is reserved for when I need to LB

[RLofOBFL]

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The cost DOES justify the use, instead of Dark Arting two GCDs, you just use DP instead, it does significantly more damage even at just two enemies. It does feel like it costs an arm and a leg but what's the difference between using that or just DAing two GCDs back to back or using DA on a GCD and also using TBN? The only time it legitimately isn't worth it is if you will need a TBN for heavy mitigation in the next 4 main combo GCDs and will have no mp after using DP.

As for buttons I am already over my limit on DRK where I need to put Quietus and Blood Price on a third xhb, PLD as well is over that limit but by even more. WAR however has 0 space issues. I don't like using a third xhb bc it's super unintuitive to me.