What does it take to be considered a 'good' player?

[NephthysVasudan]

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The problem with most mentors is they think they are "Experts on everything"
Responding with "Google it" or "I'm right your wrong"
And if you have proof to back up the fact they are wrong in response? "Gods help you" as they say in-game.

I would add that if you wish to be a good player? Keep an open mind..and make sure you have facts to back up your claims. Otherwise your better off keeping quiet.
And for crying out loud....every situation is not a savage run or a high level raid....if you get through fine..with no losses....and within reasonable time.....please keep your bloody opinions to yourself.
The objective is to get the party through in-tact and to win.
Not to break the ####### world record. (Unless you made a party specifically for that)

[UsagiAndCrepes]

Have fun and enjoy yourself, don't be rude or inconsiderate to other people, learn to relax and enjoy yourself with different people. If you spend your time bossing others around or telling them what they should or shouldn't be doing all the time you probably need to re-evaluate what you do to relax or maybe you have forgotten what fun means.

[Hikuras]

Don't suck and don't be a weeb is good enough for me.

How can you be a weeb in a japanese game tho? It's made in japan. Everything in this game is from japan. That's like saying don't be a puncher in a street fighter game where the whole idea is to PUNCH the other person.

[HoodRat]

The problem with most mentors is they think they are "Experts on everything"
Responding with "Google it" or "I'm right your wrong"

Yeah I saw that a lot when I was still in the novice network when it first came out. Although, to be fair, I do believe "Google it" to be an acceptable answer, as long as it's worded properly. Something like, "Oh the answer is blah blah blah, but for future reference it might be faster just to Google it yourself, considering I didn't know the answer myself and had to Google it." So basically, not how it happens in the novice network. XD

How can you be a weeb in a japanese game tho? It's made in japan. Everything in this game is from japan. That's like saying don't be a puncher in a street fighter game where the whole idea is to PUNCH the other person.

Some people can kick. :^)

[Lilseph]

The mentor system is really flawed and, at this point, it's worthless to measure the player's game profiency. I would say that making it a crown was a mistake, as it feels representative of status more than mentorship.

How can you be a weeb in a japanese game tho? It's made in japan. Everything in this game is from japan. That's like saying don't be a puncher in a street fighter game where the whole idea is to PUNCH the other person.

The game is mostly inspired by the Western culture though. Like almost every FF ever. Kugane however is a good addition for the sake of cultural variety.

[Mirch]

Point fingers, if u make mistakes insta point fingers to others.

[Xlantaa]

Having orange logs in FFlogs seems the rule right now. Because people cannot put his head out of that stupid NOT OFFICIAL web arse.

[AxlStream]

Answers here seem extremely vapid and generic bs, so I'll throw my 2 cents in.

1. Know your job inside out. Know how to get the maximum out of it. That will require a lot of time as you will encounter some situations where you will have to deviate to squeeze the most out of your job.
2. Know the fights. Job knowledge is great but only when paired up with encounter knowledge. Watch guides, join learning parties, farm the ever living heck out of a fight aiming to do better.
3. Do not be afraid of asking questions to others and be open to feedback. This is something this community seems to have issues with but it's what differentiate average DF plebs from an actual "good" player.

Also as an extra, avoid this attitude.

And for crying out loud....every situation is not a savage run or a high level raid....if you get through fine..with no losses....and within reasonable time.....please keep your bloody opinions to yourself.
The objective is to get the party through in-tact and to win.
Not to break the ####### world record. (Unless you made a party specifically for that)

Being complacent leads to lazyness, lazyness leads to easy mistakes.

[Skivvy]

Wrong thread.....please stay on topic.

It's proper forum etiquette to not derail topics by posting in threads about a subject matter that doesn't pertain to the topic at hand. She's perfectly capable of creating her own thread about her question and the community will respond in kind. There was nothing wrong with what the person you quoted said and also has no bearing on the skill of a player. She wasn't being rude, just stating it matter-of-factly.

If you only knew who diamond orion is...you'd think differently.

And create a thread on an already flooded forum when the answer can be given in a simple 1-post reply? That's worse than answering the question there and then.
Oh look at that.. This is the 4th? 5th? post about this. Woops.
Looks like this thread is getting "derailed". All because someone wanted to exhibit their superiority by responding in a snarky manner. All of this could have been avoided by answering the question (or ignoring it), however instead they chose to reply with a degree of snark.

Besides, it is on topic. Responding with snark when someone asks a simple question is not a value I would consider a good player to hold.



Not a hard one to answer regardless who they are. I couldn't care less if they are trolls, or asking simple questions all the time, or derail threads or whatever it is that this person "may do regularly"..
The effort you put into replying to them, could have been used for answering the question.
If you didn't want to answer, then just ignore it and someone else will.

If I wanted to be snarky - I'd quote the thread diamond already made...along with other quotes of the same incidents across various pages.
Maybe you should take a good long look in the mirror first....pot calling kettle black and all.

Instead I politely said - please stay on topic...because I already saw a thread had already been created for that exact...purpose.
don't know about you..but in many forum boards? That's considered spamming..a far worse crime.
Now lets stay on topic please.

NephthysVasudan ain't wrong....diamond kinda.... let it go please.

How to derail a thread 101.

[NephthysVasudan]

Answers here seem extremely vapid and generic bs, so I'll throw my 2 cents in.

1. Know your job inside out. Know how to get the maximum out of it. That will require a lot of time as you will encounter some situations where you will have to deviate to squeeze the most out of your job.
2. Know the fights. Job knowledge is great but only when paired up with encounter knowledge. Watch guides, join learning parties, farm the ever living heck out of a fight aiming to do better.
3. Do not be afraid of asking questions to others and be open to feedback. This is something this community seems to have issues with but it's what differentiate average DF plebs from an actual "good" player.

Also as an extra, avoid this attitude.

Being complacent leads to lazyness, lazyness leads to easy mistakes.

Snobbery makes things worse.