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    Player
    Galgarion's Avatar
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    Character
    Famine Cruor
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    Mateus
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    Marauder Lv 70
    I adore people who know when to shut up and back off. Say you're leveling a dragoon, but you're a master at playing a black mage, and you can tell right away that someone's rotation is off. If you offer them advice and they refuse to take it, you're a champion in my book if you let it drop without grousing about it for the rest of the dungeon. The only thing worse than carrying a slow dpser, is listening to someone else bitch about it for 20 minutes.
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    Hierro's Avatar
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    Ziero Rehw-bidit
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    Malboro
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    Purple logs. If you can do that, you're good.
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    Tridus's Avatar
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    Cecelia Stormfeather
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    For starters, a definition of "good player" that people agree on. We don't actually have that, as you see by how varied the responses are.

    The first rule for getting better at anything is to admit that you don't already know how to do it. Be open to feedback. Go look for information on how the top players are doing things. Ask for help if you're not sure. You won't magically leap up overnight, but that attitude puts you in a position to improve quickly.

    Second, don't be an a**hole. Seems simple, right? A little bit of polite communication goes a long way. If you screw up, own it. If someone else screws up and is clearly trying, be gracious about it. People don't respond to jerks by trying harder, they respond in kind. If you find yourself arguing with another player during an encounter, you're probably doing it wrong. (Yes, I watched two players do this in Rabanastre last week. Neither was nearly as good as they think they are.)

    Third, use your support abilities! This is a team game. If four people stand in stuff and die, the RDM should start raising. Your personal DPS taking a hit doesn't mean anything compared to other players being dead longer because you're making the healers hardcast raise (or simply leaving them dead because there's too much damage to hardcast raise). If you have a skill that benefits the group as a whole, know when to use it and do so.

    Beyond that it's really job specific and thus not well suited to the general forum. How to be a good NIN is very different than how to be a good WHM.
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    Survivor of Housing Savage 2018.
    Discord: Tridus#2642

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    Zarabeth's Avatar
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    Limsa-Lominsa
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    Character
    Kaylee Frye
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 80
    My idea of a good player is,
    1. know your job and all of it's skills and what they do.
    2. Do your job first and, if you have time, then do other things such as healer/tank dpsing or DPS healing/raising.
    3. wear the appropriate gear for your level and have it all repaired before starting.
    4. Do not queue for anything if you don'/t have the time to do the entire run and pay attention.
    5. Be kind to others
    6. Worry about your job and what you are doing, not what the others are or are not doing.

    I numbered these for clarity but they should all be number one as they are all important.
    The definition of good players will vary per person.
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    Last edited by Zarabeth; 12-13-2017 at 04:10 AM. Reason: i had more words

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    Lunafreya's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Ellia Lombardia
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    For me it all comes down to knowing your role, knowing the mechanics of a fight, and always be dpsing if you are a healer because there's almost no healer checks in this tier. I'd also consider a good player to be open minded about mistakes people make and they should contribute to a healthy environment.
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    Anienai's Avatar
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    Character
    Anienai Talenca
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Yeol View Post
    What does it take to be considered a 'good' player? Share your thoughts
    Main a ROE.
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    The price of solving everything is everything.
    Quote Originally Posted by Illmaeran View Post
    Roe, no question. Why be a kitten when you can be a goddess?

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    Chaosgrimm Winsock
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    Being a good player has absolutely nothing to do with being a nice or helpful player, they are two completely independent things IMHO.
    I disagree.
    While 'being nice' is certainly not the only factor, it is a factor.

    I've seen groups fail because someone brought poor DPS into a group.
    I've seen groups fail because someone brought a poor attitude into a group.

    ^ can't say I'd call either player 'good'.
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    Last edited by winsock; 12-13-2017 at 01:53 PM.

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    MysticDreamer's Avatar
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    Character
    Mystic Dreamer
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    Don't get offended when someone offers you advice.If they are trying to help you and you get angry about it than there is something wrong with you.
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    Aomine1992's Avatar
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    Character
    Daiki Sejuro
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 80
    As you can see everyone has an opinion of what a good player is, some also became examples of not so great players

    Learn your rotation as best as you can but also learn about the class like priority systems, what buffs should be used together, also how well your job works with other ones (synergy)

    Be helpful to those who do not know and except advice even when it's snarky which is what it is majority of the time lol

    Last but not least do not get consumed with others dps unless it motivates you to do better...always exit gracefully lol
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    Player AppleJinx's Avatar
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    Character
    Apple Jinx
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 80
    I consider players that utilizes their job's full tool kit effectively in casual content like dungeons, normal raid modes, and the 24 man raids good players.
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