What does it take to be considered a 'good' player?

[Zarabeth]

My idea of a good player is,
1. know your job and all of it's skills and what they do.
2. Do your job first and, if you have time, then do other things such as healer/tank dpsing or DPS healing/raising.
3. wear the appropriate gear for your level and have it all repaired before starting.
4. Do not queue for anything if you don'/t have the time to do the entire run and pay attention.
5. Be kind to others
6. Worry about your job and what you are doing, not what the others are or are not doing.

I numbered these for clarity but they should all be number one as they are all important.
The definition of good players will vary per person.

[Zarabeth]

*snip*

Completely off topic here but your character is super cute!

[Tridus]

For starters, a definition of "good player" that people agree on. We don't actually have that, as you see by how varied the responses are.

The first rule for getting better at anything is to admit that you don't already know how to do it. Be open to feedback. Go look for information on how the top players are doing things. Ask for help if you're not sure. You won't magically leap up overnight, but that attitude puts you in a position to improve quickly.

Second, don't be an a**hole. Seems simple, right? A little bit of polite communication goes a long way. If you screw up, own it. If someone else screws up and is clearly trying, be gracious about it. People don't respond to jerks by trying harder, they respond in kind. If you find yourself arguing with another player during an encounter, you're probably doing it wrong. (Yes, I watched two players do this in Rabanastre last week. Neither was nearly as good as they think they are.)

Third, use your support abilities! This is a team game. If four people stand in stuff and die, the RDM should start raising. Your personal DPS taking a hit doesn't mean anything compared to other players being dead longer because you're making the healers hardcast raise (or simply leaving them dead because there's too much damage to hardcast raise). If you have a skill that benefits the group as a whole, know when to use it and do so.

Beyond that it's really job specific and thus not well suited to the general forum. How to be a good NIN is very different than how to be a good WHM.

[Lunafreya]

For me it all comes down to knowing your role, knowing the mechanics of a fight, and always be dpsing if you are a healer because there's almost no healer checks in this tier. I'd also consider a good player to be open minded about mistakes people make and they should contribute to a healthy environment.

[AxlStream]

How would I define good in this case?

Decent APM, solid awareness, consistent, alert, pulls decent numbers and isn't hard work to raid alongside.

Being a good player has absolutely nothing to do with being a nice or helpful player, they are two completely independent things IMHO.

Finally someone says it!

[Anienai]

What does it take to be considered a 'good' player? Share your thoughts

Main a ROE.

[Skivvy]

Hmm. I dunno. I would argue that to be considered a good player in an MMO setting, your behavior most definitely is a factor. If needed, you should be able to chime in with some civil tips and advice to help get your group through the content. I do think skill and knowledge weigh more, but knowing how to interact with your peers completes the package.

[winsock]

Being a good player has absolutely nothing to do with being a nice or helpful player, they are two completely independent things IMHO.

I disagree.
While 'being nice' is certainly not the only factor, it is a factor.

I've seen groups fail because someone brought poor DPS into a group.
I've seen groups fail because someone brought a poor attitude into a group.

^ can't say I'd call either player 'good'.

[MysticDreamer]

Don't get offended when someone offers you advice.If they are trying to help you and you get angry about it than there is something wrong with you.

[Vineas]

Decent APM, solid awareness, consistent, alert, pulls decent numbers and isn't hard work to raid alongside.

A good definition for good player

Being a good player has absolutely nothing to do with being a nice or helpful player, they are two completely independent things IMHO.

But, a better player is one that can be nice and helpful to other player..

So, good enough is not good, be better..