What does it take to be considered a 'good' player?

[LadyCeles]

Theres many rotations per class u can find online. Try multiple rotations and practice them on dummies and in content. If u study ur class and practice it u will get better just like anything. Understanding what other classes can do and what synergy classes have with each other help alot. Alot of the "elitests" u see raging in game are really not that strong of players. There players who have a basic understanding of the game who think there hot shit. The truely good players dont care how good u are or how bad u are. They just want to get stuff done and more often are willing to help if u want help. Everyones new at one time or another but there are also people who just dont care about getting better. If u want to get good at the game u will. There is plenty of research u can do and practice practice practice. if you work hard and keep moving forward u will get to where u want to be. Also be patient and keep ur cool. Ur attitude can rub off on others and effect there game play as well

[UsagiAndCrepes]

Have fun and enjoy yourself, don't be rude or inconsiderate to other people, learn to relax and enjoy yourself with different people. If you spend your time bossing others around or telling them what they should or shouldn't be doing all the time you probably need to re-evaluate what you do to relax or maybe you have forgotten what fun means.

[Mirch]

Point fingers, if u make mistakes insta point fingers to others.

[Xlantaa]

Having orange logs in FFlogs seems the rule right now. Because people cannot put his head out of that stupid NOT OFFICIAL web arse.

[AxlStream]

Answers here seem extremely vapid and generic bs, so I'll throw my 2 cents in.

1. Know your job inside out. Know how to get the maximum out of it. That will require a lot of time as you will encounter some situations where you will have to deviate to squeeze the most out of your job.
2. Know the fights. Job knowledge is great but only when paired up with encounter knowledge. Watch guides, join learning parties, farm the ever living heck out of a fight aiming to do better.
3. Do not be afraid of asking questions to others and be open to feedback. This is something this community seems to have issues with but it's what differentiate average DF plebs from an actual "good" player.

Also as an extra, avoid this attitude.

And for crying out loud....every situation is not a savage run or a high level raid....if you get through fine..with no losses....and within reasonable time.....please keep your bloody opinions to yourself.
The objective is to get the party through in-tact and to win.
Not to break the ####### world record. (Unless you made a party specifically for that)

Being complacent leads to lazyness, lazyness leads to easy mistakes.

[NephthysVasudan]

Answers here seem extremely vapid and generic bs, so I'll throw my 2 cents in.

1. Know your job inside out. Know how to get the maximum out of it. That will require a lot of time as you will encounter some situations where you will have to deviate to squeeze the most out of your job.
2. Know the fights. Job knowledge is great but only when paired up with encounter knowledge. Watch guides, join learning parties, farm the ever living heck out of a fight aiming to do better.
3. Do not be afraid of asking questions to others and be open to feedback. This is something this community seems to have issues with but it's what differentiate average DF plebs from an actual "good" player.

Also as an extra, avoid this attitude.

Being complacent leads to lazyness, lazyness leads to easy mistakes.

Snobbery makes things worse.

[Lilseph]

Also as an extra, avoid this attitude.

Seems like some players are using this thread as an opportunity to bash on "l33t" players. So, can we just... give a description about what a good player is without being passive aggressive? Because, in the end, you're proving to be the opposite of what you describe.

[AxlStream]

Could I have worded it perfectly? Sure. But I was served a perfect example right on the same page. Settling in with "good enough" does not make a good player and never will.

[Skivvy]

Could I have worded it perfectly? Sure. But I was served a perfect example right on the same page. Settling in with "good enough" does not make a good player and never will.

I think this is a good example of how things go in game.

A person can be giving good advice, but if their delivery of the information is poor, people are going to fight you on the attitude and ignore what you are saying.

Your comment could have stood perfectly fine on its own if only you had chosen to not lead in with "Answers here seem extremely vapid and generic bs, so I'll throw my 2 cents in."

[HoodRat]

I think this is a good example of how things go in game.

A person can be giving good advise, but if their delivery of the information is poor, people are going to fight you on the attitude and ignore the advise.

Your comment could have stood perfectly fine on its own if only you had chosen to not lead in with "Answers here seem extremely vapid and generic bs, so I'll throw my 2 cents in."

Like I said earlier, that's just not the case. Most people don't seem to want help and, regardless of how it's delivered, will not react appropriately.