What does it take to be considered a 'good' player?

[Joe_Schmoe]

MY idea of a good player? This man summed it up perfectly:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26mYX7mEepk

I'll gladly take the mediocre player who's fun to be around and makes the other players better (without cheerleading), than the player who is a real maestro at this game, but unfortunately is a total douchebag and a selfish prick.

[NephthysVasudan]

Since the others are unhelpful.

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This is an example of how to NOT be a good player. Not willing to help people when they ask for it.

If you only knew who diamond orion is...you'd think differently.

[Altena]

It's proper forum etiquette to not derail topics by posting in threads about a subject matter that doesn't pertain to the topic at hand. She's perfectly capable of creating her own thread about her question and the community will respond in kind. There was nothing wrong with what the person you quoted said and also has no bearing on the skill of a player. She wasn't being rude, just stating it matter-of-factly.

And create a thread on an already flooded forum when the answer can be given in a simple 1-post reply? That's worse than answering the question there and then.
Oh look at that.. This is the 4th? 5th? post about this. Woops.
Looks like this thread is getting "derailed". All because someone wanted to exhibit their superiority by responding in a snarky manner. All of this could have been avoided by answering the question (or ignoring it), however instead they chose to reply with a degree of snark.

Besides, it is on topic. Responding with snark when someone asks a simple question is not a value I would consider a good player to hold.

If you only knew who diamond orion is...you'd think differently.

Not a hard one to answer regardless who they are. I couldn't care less if they are trolls, or asking simple questions all the time, or derail threads or whatever it is that this person "may do regularly"..
The effort you put into replying to them, could have been used for answering the question.
If you didn't want to answer, then just ignore it and someone else will.

[NephthysVasudan]

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If I wanted to be snarky - I'd quote the thread diamond already made...along with other quotes of the same incidents across various pages.
Maybe you should take a good long look in the mirror first....pot calling kettle black and all.

Instead I politely said - please stay on topic...because I already saw a thread had already been created for that exact...purpose.
don't know about you..but in many forum boards? That's considered spamming..a far worse crime.
Now lets stay on topic please.

[Lilseph]

Guess people have different takes on what they consider what a good player is.

For me the priority is:

1) Skillful. The basics makes you an average player, they are stepping above that threshold.
2) Adapt. They know the world doesn't resolve around them. Some situations you'll be pulling you out of your comfort zone and things might be different if the majority dictates it.
3) Good attitude. Know that this is a game and, in an instance, it's not a competition but cooperations between players.
4) Patience. Self-explanatory.
-Bonus: Be helpful. Not mandatory but always a plus. If people need/ask for help, be a buddy and give them some advice.
-Bonus II: They have a general knowledge about other people's roles/jobs. Helping them to synergize with them with their skillset.

A good player is an ideal, it's the one we all want in a duty. Individually and, if we can, we should always strive to become *that* player.

[LastFireAce]

1. Don't talk shit
- If you talk shit at least be able to take it back
- be able to proof you ain't shit , talk the talk
2. Don't be asshole
3. Give to the community don't be a toxic
4. Help the hopeless
5. Accept help
6. Don't say you gonna quit when we know you won't
- stop with "You don't pay my sub"
7. Know/Learn/Ask about openers/rotation.
8. Tip thos who craft for you.
9. Don't be mean if someone wanna read/watch cutscean
10. Don't drop lock loot/PF ones you get your loot/pony/bird/doggy.
11. say no to elites, don't lick they butt.
12. don't be a mentor for pretty crown if you ain't gonna bother helping
13. don't expect help if you ain't gonna help other.

[LastFireAce]

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NephthysVasudan ain't wrong....diamond kinda.... let it go please.

[NephthysVasudan]

1. Don't talk shit
- If you talk shit at least be able to take it back
- be able to proof you ain't shit , talk the talk
2. Don't be asshole
3. Give to the community don't be a toxic
4. Help the hopeless
5. Accept help
6. Don't say you gonna quit when we know you won't
- stop with "You don't pay my sub"
7. Know/Learn/Ask about openers/rotation.
8. Tip thos who craft for you.
9. Don't be mean if someone wanna read/watch cutscean
10. Don't drop lock loot/PF ones you get your loot/pony/bird/doggy.
11. say no to elites, don't lick they butt.
12. don't be a mentor for pretty crown if you ain't gonna bother helping
13. don't expect help if you ain't gonna help other.

This is becoming a very...big..issue with me these days...so many are "strutting around like peacocks" and that with ego's the size of a planet. >.<;
Starting to think I should just stay as a "stealthy/stalker mentor" - lol

[LadyCeles]

Theres many rotations per class u can find online. Try multiple rotations and practice them on dummies and in content. If u study ur class and practice it u will get better just like anything. Understanding what other classes can do and what synergy classes have with each other help alot. Alot of the "elitests" u see raging in game are really not that strong of players. There players who have a basic understanding of the game who think there hot shit. The truely good players dont care how good u are or how bad u are. They just want to get stuff done and more often are willing to help if u want help. Everyones new at one time or another but there are also people who just dont care about getting better. If u want to get good at the game u will. There is plenty of research u can do and practice practice practice. if you work hard and keep moving forward u will get to where u want to be. Also be patient and keep ur cool. Ur attitude can rub off on others and effect there game play as well

[HoodRat]

What I would classify as being good is knowing the basics of your class and knowing the content you're in, assuming you're not still learning it. I guarantee that simply taking half an hour out of your life to research how to play your job and practice it will already put you above the average df player.

This is becoming a very...big..issue with me these days...so many are "strutting around like peacocks" and that with ego's the size of a planet. >.<;
Starting to think I should just stay as a "stealthy/stalker mentor" - lol

On the other side, most of the time I or other people I've seen try to help others, we usually get attacked. In my experience, saying something like, "Oh, you seem to be having a little trouble with what you're doing. Try doing it this way instead," will merit the same response as if I said, "You're garbage kid, uninstall." You just can't help people who don't want to be helped.

I will admit though that most mentors, at least the ones I see, aren't even good at this game.