Thread: 4.18 update discussion

The cannon fire imo was fine, but a rate of fire decrease wouldve been better than a potency loss. They fired almost too fast. Just adding a second or two wouldve been ok.

I guess they don't care about the healer issue in it though, I'm a bit disappointed with this. But I will wait to see what happens with the mammet change.

I've actually seen talk about the canons in game a few times. I swear I saw a post here about them hitting too hard but maybe it wasn't in the English forum.

The adjustments don't seem that big to me. Healers are of course very important, but they were already very important, and have always been very important in the larger battle style game modes in this game.

While currently the game seems to be very healer heavy, The emphasis on taking the middle with/against stacked healers is more of an issue than their overall performance throughout the match.

The game encourages players to make use of robots which can't be healed. Fighting healers in lanes isn't as difficult due to mech support.
Killing mamets being healed... I don't think I've ever seen the issue of an "invincible" mamet even while being healed by two people.

The biggest issue I see in the current and original Rival Wings is the emphasis on taking/defending the middle area, system wise anyway.

The biggest issue I see in general is something no balance patch will fix. Lack of understanding the game mode, lack of coordination among teams, and a lack of using the area outside lanes/mid by more than a few people in an entire match. There is also a lack of actual strategy in my DC. It's usually "Push mid, then tower, keep mid,etc." and if a team fails to get mid, usually its a long draw out loss, even if there are other options to overturn the loss.

While I agree the lack of communication on the english side of things is a problem. I don't agree with the things people consider issues mostly in the game mode. The biggest problems I see from the mode aren't fixable with a balance patch.

Hello, there.

Thank you for your feedback and suggestions regarding Rival Wings. We would like to explain the reasoning behind some of the adjustments we made in Patch 4.18, and answer some of the feedback we received as well.

• Adjustments made in Patch 4.18
  We received feedback stating the matches were long, and overall pace of the match felt slow. Based on this, we made adjustments mainly focusing on making it easier to damage objects and sped up the overall pace.
  • Increased Mammet’s movement speed.
  • Decreased the potency and range of steam cannon action “Cannonfire.”
  By increasing the Mammet’s movement speed, we shortened the amount of time it took them to reach the towers and the core so that they’re more effective against them. Also, we reduced the attack range on the steam cannons, allowing some more room for the opponents to attack the core easier.
  
  We also considered a more direct approach, such as lowering the maximum HP of the cores, and shortening the amount of a time one match would take. However, we were concerned that by lowering the maximum HP, it’ll make the matches too simple, or where the matches will end before the cores were destroyed. For this reason, we have passed on these adjustments at this time.
  
  We’re also aware of the situation where the overall match seems to slow down a bit after the towers are destroyed and the cores become available to be attacked. We would like to observe how the above adjustments will affect the matches first, and consider further adjustments as necessary.
  
  
• Power Generators
  This is in regards to the power generators, which are placed in the center of the map. Since the power generator greatly affects the match, we’re considering adjusting the amount of ceruleum they produce. We’re also considering to see if it would be possible to make improvements to the rules to add a bit more challenge, especially around the center of the map, around the power generator.
  
  
• Job Adjustments
  We received lots of feedback related to the strength of each role and their effectiveness in Rival Wings so we would like to say thank you. For this one, we’re looking to make adjustments on the rules to adjust role effectiveness.
  
  
• Static Parties
  We have seen feedback stating that static parties have a large advantage than those without a static party. We have no plans to change this, as we would like everyone to be able to participate and enjoy the content together. However, that being said, there are some instances where static parties have greater advantage in specific situations, so we’re thinking of making adjustments around this.
  
  
• Spawn Camping
  We have received feedback where some teams may engage in spawn camping. This is due to our system-side measures being overlooked, and we apologize for the inconvenience this is causing. We’re looking into ways to address these type of situation.

Once again, we would like to thank everyone for their feedback and ask you to please continue to submit any feedback you may have. We’ll use them as reference for making future balancing adjustments and improvements to the rules.