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    BluexBird's Avatar
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    Bard Performance and Scripts

    So... Bards can perform now. You can smash your face into your keyboard and play "lovely" melodies for everyone around you to hear. How fun!

    Now, I've been practicing quite a bit and can play some short, simple songs. But I was just wondering... if I were to use a program such as AutoHotkey, and create scripts that basically just simulate the pressing of the keys on my keyboard for me in a sequence, so that I can play more elaborate/faster songs... could that get me in trouble?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BluexBird View Post
    So... Bards can perform now. You can smash your face into your keyboard and play "lovely" melodies for everyone around you to hear. How fun!

    Now, I've been practicing quite a bit and can play some short, simple songs. But I was just wondering... if I were to use a program such as AutoHotkey, and create scripts that basically just simulate the pressing of the keys on my keyboard for me in a sequence, so that I can play more elaborate/faster songs... could that get me in trouble?
    I'm pretty sure that is against the TOS, I think that would be seen as botting.

    And for some weird reason they are even more strict against automated bard music making because no macro support ..., better safe then sorry, don't use it!
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    "Technically" yes, it falls under TOS. However, so do parsers... and we see how SE treats that. I'd imagine that SE would treat this the same way. Don't talk about it or draw attention to it and you'll be fine because no one is going to know anyways unless you reveal that yourself.

    GW2 and Anet treat it the same way.
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    Technically..... no.

    As you are aware, you need a third party software in order to use PS4/XB controllers for the game on the PC. If it is used to in that same way, i don't see why it would be against the ToS. If it is, then players using controller on PC should get hit the same way.

    That ToS thing, its mostly to for those using third party programs to cheat the system and harass/grief players. Why do you think Yoshi said to keep a HUSH HUSH on parsers. Use it, just dont abuse it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dotsforlife View Post
    GW2 and Anet treat it the same way.
    Anet actually made an official statement that they were OK with macro use for music playing. I can't imagine SE doing the same, but it would be nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MirageSniper View Post
    Technically..... no.

    As you are aware, you need a third party software in order to use PS4/XB controllers for the game on the PC. If it is used to in that same way, i don't see why it would be against the ToS. If it is, then players using controller on PC should get hit the same way.

    That ToS thing, its mostly to for those using third party programs to cheat the system and harass/grief players. Why do you think Yoshi said to keep a HUSH HUSH on parsers. Use it, just dont abuse it.
    Or you could just read the rules instead of speculating...

    2.1 Cheating and Botting. You may not create or use any unauthorized cheats, bots or automation software, hacks, mods or any other unauthorized software or hardware designed to modify the Game and gameplay. In addition you may not take advantage of game system bugs and exploits during gameplay.
    http://support.na.square-enix.com/ru...1&tag=users_en

    so using software together with the game is only not allowed if you modify or automate gameplay processes with it - like automating the bard performance. a parser wich reads the combat log and only shows dps numbers doesn't modify the game or automate the gameplay.
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    Last edited by Tint; 12-12-2017 at 08:17 AM.

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    If a tree falls in the woods, but nobody or nothing is around to hear it ... does it still make a noise?
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    Not drawing attention to parser numbers is one thing, but not drawing attention to elaborate, identically repeated performances is another...
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    Last edited by Seig345; 12-12-2017 at 01:22 PM.
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    Yes, it's against ToS, so no, you shouldn't do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    Anet actually made an official statement that they were OK with macro use for music playing. I can't imagine SE doing the same, but it would be nice.
    No reason they wouldn't considering it's both harmless and they turn their heads when it comes to parsing.
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