Please make a vote surrender option in Rival Wings

[Culfinrandir]

I can see this being abused so much. PVP is already terribly toxic if you're unlucky enough to get certain players. I've had people SCREAMING in chat that it was a guaranteed loss after the first few minutes of the game starting. Of course we often went on to win or come second but a button to vote abandon (which is all it is) & the associated graphical annoyances on screen would have made it far worse.

[Jxnibbles]

I do not think we need a surrender button but I would like to see timer decreased to 15 minutes. Shatter is also 20 minutes but it usually only last 16 minutes.

I am curious how is the mode even doing now.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

If they were to implement this, the only way I'd accept it is if you surrender any rewards as well. No tomes, NO XP, nothing. There's winning, there's losing, then there's giving up. Giving up doesn't deserve a reward, and that would be a major way to discourage frequent use of it. Consider also the fact that you get nothing in PvE when you vote abandon. I consider that fair.

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

I've seen games turn around even at the 3-minute mark because people kept trying, kept pushing, kept leading and kept fighting.

Don't give up until it's literal seconds left on the clock. Mid isn't everything and you can still win even with both towers crushed.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

I've seen games turn around even at the 3-minute mark because people kept trying, kept pushing, kept leading and kept fighting.

Don't give up until it's literal seconds left on the clock. Mid isn't everything and you can still win even with both towers crushed.

I think I love you.

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

I think I love you.

You're actually the one who made me realize things aren't always assured until the last few seconds. c:

I was in a match with you once on my alt, and you were doing your best to lead people and direct the team. That victory we won was the sweetest in a long time, especially when it felt like we were beat for sure! Since then, I've been trying to keep fighting and doing my best 'til the very end - I've just noticed an uptick in how quick people are to throw in the towel and start spouting demoralizing stuff in chat the moment mid is lost or a tower goes down. That, more than anything, is starting to make it so I'm not as eager to jump into RW as I was before. ;;

[GenericMagus]

Rethinking on it the Vote Surrender option should be at 15 min, not 10, because had a few games where the entire party just let the other team just win the match in like 5-8 minutes and still got the rewards.

Why won't we have this option when we can just collude together and just lose much faster?

[silverlunarfox]

There are some games you can make a comeback when all seems lost....

However I was in a particularly nasty one sided fight that ended in almost 9 minutes.... It was bad.... So even with your suggestion sometimes a 10 min surrender isnt soon enough XP

All you can do is fight and maybe just maybe you can pull out a good win.

[GenericMagus]

While I would often do that, as I have shown photos of before, there is legit no way you can make a comeback if A. You lost mid. B, you have no mechs. C, can't collect CE fast enough because either oppositions blocks you or you're being bombarded at the door so you have to divert resources to preventing them from destroying your core and D. They have either their tower or both towers well defended you can't destroy them.

Sometimes, all you're doing by fighting is delaying the inevitible, there won't be a change in results no matter how hard you defend. If you can make a comeback, its if the opposition misplays, or you manage to build up the CE for a mech rush.

If it was easier to make a comeback or to break stalemates in this game I wouldn't want to suggest this in the first place.

[silverlunarfox]

While I would often do that, as I have shown photos of before, there is legit no way you can make a comeback if A. You lost mid. B, you have no mechs. C, can't collect CE fast enough because either oppositions blocks you or you're being bombarded at the door so you have to divert resources to preventing them from destroying your core and D. They have either their tower or both towers well defended you can't destroy them.

This was my 9 minute disaster. They had stacked healers on top and bottom. It was ridiculous. however with good communications, comebacks even with healer stacking, is possible. I've seen it more than once. It just wasn't happening that game..... *shrugs* oh well.