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    Saving time? What else would you be doing with that time?

    Most of these matches ride out the full 20 because people either don't push at the right times, or are content to just ride out the clock. A lot of players make a LOT of game-losing/time-consuming mistakes and don't even realize it. And that includes me; I don't want to try to sound like it doesn't. But I pay quite a lot of attention to the flow of battle, and when I find it getting stagnant, I make a move. More often than not, it turns things around. Offensive pressure and momentum go a LONG way in Rival Wings.

    Still, please humor me, what else would anyone be doing with that time?
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    More matches? Like if I vote surrended every 15 minutes, I get an extra match after every 4th one? It sounds small, but it all adds up, like faster it is, more matches can be played.
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    Quality over quantity.

    Same could be said if you learn how to both prevent those situations and utilize offensive pressure to win. You might take a few lumps on the way there, but sometimes there's a greater lesson in a loss than a win.

    I won't pretend I have all the time in the world. I don't. But I am committed to a match once there, win or lose. I like my wins decisive, and if I HAVE to lose, I'm going down fighting. They will literally have to pry their win from me. That's just me though. I understand I can't control 23 other people, nor do I want to. Possible exploitations aside, I'm just not in favor of the idea, but perhaps that's just me being a bit hard-boiled about it.
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    I understand your point on how you prefer your matches, but to me, I see the idea of a vote surrender being no less exploitable than vote kicking someone to get someones friend in or vote abandoning at the very last boss in a 24 man raid.
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    Nah, it definitely wasn't idiotic of the leading team to block us from the ice, then drive us back to our base, nor for the other team to try to pincer them, fail, then hit us anyways. And perhaps I take too much credit for it, though I took notice that we'd literally pushed back both other teams (thus we weren't lacking for strength). In the moment, I was simply the one who said "Screw this, we're not going down like that. Let's return the favor!" And people rallied behind me. We could've accepted the L, but we didn't, and tied for first (which counts as a win for mounts/achievements).

    Had we simply accepted that there was no coming back, or worse, tried to rely on ice to save us, we'd have just lost. I hold that moment close to my heart as proof that sometimes - not always - but sometimes, just getting fired up and fighting back can make a huge difference.
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    Humm maybe 20 minutes is a little too harsh we see so much the timeout. no need for a surrender option, i think its more a problem of times or hp of the tower and core.
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    it's already bad enough that half the people playing give up the second they lose mid, it'll be even worse when at the 18 minute mark they decide they'll just wait out until they can surrender.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saucyshortcake View Post
    it's already bad enough that half the people playing give up the second they lose mid, it'll be even worse when at the 18 minute mark they decide they'll just wait out until they can surrender.
    boost your charisma skills then, try to carry them
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirch View Post
    boost your charisma skills then, try to carry them
    i'm pretty sure less than half the actual players in the game actually even read the chat, so i dunno how well that'd work. i've called things before and still had nobody show up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saucyshortcake View Post
    i'm pretty sure less than half the actual players in the game actually even read the chat, so i dunno how well that'd work. i've called things before and still had nobody show up.
    carry harder then. give your best always, no one listens? dont complain. u lose? dont complain. u win? dont complain.
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