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    Please make a vote surrender option in Rival Wings

    Hi, I'm making a thread about there potentially being a Vote Surrender option in Rival Wings a la League of Legend.

    Too many times have there been matches when its clear one party is just dominating the other, but the losing party refuses to gi timeout despite there being no way to win.

    As such I propose a feature to be added where after the half way point (10 mins) has been reached, the Vote Surrender option is enabled that instantly destroys your core. It requires at least 12 people to vote surrender to trigger it, not including the person who initiated. If triggered you get the same rewards as losing, but if fails to pass, the vote surrender goes on a 2 min cooldown.
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    This prevents the losing party from wasting time, and to just stop fighting as soon as possible so they can requeue for another match much faster. What do you guys think? On phone so no edit feature.
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    When you let me kick multiple people from the match who are losing motivation to play after mid is lost, ye sure. Otherwise this is just catered to people who want a dominating team and get wins fast, instead of putting work and actually try until the end for it. And there are plenty of those guys in pvp sadly, especially after exp introduction and the new reward now.

    Defend your core... have some honor even with losing..thats PvP
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commander_Justitia View Post
    have some honor even with losing..thats PvP
    Screw honor, shank the enemy and take his stuff!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commander_Justitia View Post
    When you let me kick multiple people from the match who are losing motivation to play after mid is lost, ye sure. Otherwise this is just catered to people who want a dominating team and get wins fast, instead of putting work and actually try until the end for it. And there are plenty of those guys in pvp sadly, especially after exp introduction and the new reward now.

    Defend your core... have some honor even with losing..thats PvP
    Yeah sure, its honor when the enemy team has 2 towers, your teams CE drained and your cores exposed at 50%, why delay the inevitible?
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    It's better to accept you lost and agree to surrender because theres no way you can make a comeback at times
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    Quote Originally Posted by GenericMagus View Post
    because theres no way you can make a comeback at times
    Why not? You still have 10minutes.
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    Because for the enemy team to have put you into such a bad spot that you're guaranteed to lose because either the team is bad which allowed you to get into that position, or the enemy is just that strong.

    Anyway, if you want to start kicking people on mass if they all stop fighting (I seen almost half of the team stop fighting in quite a few matches when things are literally impossible to come back from) then wouldn't be better to just agree to vote surrender instead?

    What would you do if you have no CE, no mid, 2 towers gone, enemy has theirs at 75% for both and you have no mechs? Somethings its better to just surrender and get another try instead of smacking your head against a wall to be a purist about it.
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    Even in one of the most basic of games, Chess, we have an option to surrender by knocking our king over, signifying that our loss is inevitible. In a PvP mode thats 1 v 1, to not have that would mean that regardless of how much effort you put into it, the rewards are still the same.
    Many games have the option to surrender, hell, I used League as an example because in your words, it would be better for the losing team to literally continue getting dominated and wait for them to loss instead of acknowledging they lost and instead surrender to just end the match. Too many matches have gone to time out because the your team or the oppossing team is on the receiving end of a domination just can't quit in futiliy defending.
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    Surrender is a moot feature when you have 12 votes. Why not just afk and let them burn the core?

    That said I dont want this at all. It would be somewhat okay if the player making the vote is required to pay 20000 wolf marks for surrender, whether the vote passed or not.
    That is how much my 10 mins worth, if you want to surrender and tell other people to abandon the fight, you better pay them/me the rewards yourself.

    I had this one fight, the enemy had hit our core to 95. We still have their two towers in 5 mins but we didn't give up. Managed to down both towers 40 seconds left, and 95 at 10 seconds left. All the foot soldiers keep hitting the core until it was 94 at 4 seconds left. That's the best comeback I ever had and it felt really good. That's how PvP should be.
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    Last edited by uvuvwevwevweonyetenyevweugwemu; 12-10-2017 at 10:41 PM.

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