Give Physical Ranged Dps knockback nullify ability

[Enjuden]

Repelling shot overwrites knockback. MCH is the only class that has to suck it up at this point. If I were to be honest, one gcd (or having a melee save an ogcd) is not going to make a difference. If the change went through, the only difference that it would make is that bosses would just go through immunity instead. I don't know about you all, but I don't think SE deciding what counts for immunity and what isn't and going 'Tee hee it's a secret' is pretty annoying. The only other thing is that it's something that would only affect people who have lowish latency. If it is anywhere remotely mid-high, the feature will do nothing for bards/machinists (a repelling shot for machinists is pretty much the only thing being asked for aside from outright immunity, which I'll say no forever to). They have everything else, why give them the only thing they don't have, let alone need.

[Vivi_Bushido]

Repelling shot overwrites knockback. MCH is the only class that has to suck it up at this point. If I were to be honest, one gcd (or having a melee save an ogcd) is not going to make a difference. If the change went through, the only difference that it would make is that bosses would just go through immunity instead. I don't know about you all, but I don't think SE deciding what counts for immunity and what isn't and going 'Tee hee it's a secret' is pretty annoying. The only other thing is that it's something that would only affect people who have lowish latency. If it is anywhere remotely mid-high, the feature will do nothing for bards/machinists (a repelling shot for machinists is pretty much the only thing being asked for aside from outright immunity, which I'll say no forever to). They have everything else, why give them the only thing they don't have, let alone need.

You're right they don't need it. That's why it's called a QoL. We could sit here and argue all day that they don't need it but that doesn't make it any less of a QoL. A repelling shot is not what's being asked for, an immunity is what's being asked for.

Here's a good situation where they might need one. OS5, your teammates killed all the box ghosts. Where will the range dps go to avoid knockback? No where. They're dead. Warrior got covered out of habit for their dps, range dies. Nothing they could do. Not their fault. Everyone else? Alive with their own knockback prevention skills minus DRK.

[basketofseals]

You're right they don't need it. hat's why it's called a QoL. We could sit here and argue all day that they don't need it but that doesn't make it any less of a QoL. A repelling shot is not what's being asked for, an immunity is what's being asked for.

Here's a good situation where they might need one. OS5, your teammates killed all the box ghosts. Where will the range dps go to avoid knockback? No where. They're dead. Warrior got covered out of habit for their dps, range dies. Nothing they could do. Not their fault. Everyone else? Alive with their own knockback prevention skills minus DRK.

No, QoL is something that's convenient but has no definite gameplay effects. Resetting cooldowns on a wipe was a QoL addition. Giving a job the ability to completely ignore a mechanic is not.

OS5, your teammates killed all the box ghosts. Where will the range dps go to avoid knockback? No where. They're dead.

Which is the mechanic. When you mess up a mechanic you pay for it.

[Vivi_Bushido]

No, QoL is something that's convenient but has no definite gameplay effects. Resetting cooldowns on a wipe was a QoL addition. Giving a job the ability to completely ignore a mechanic is not.




Which is the mechanic. When you mess up a mechanic you pay for it.

I don't see a book anywhere that considers what constitutes what can and cannot be a QoL change.

As for your statement about completely ignoring a mechanic I feel is rather moot when all but 3 jobs in the game have some means of ignoring a mechanic which just simply inconvenients those playing those jobs.

[basketofseals]

As for your statement about completely ignoring a mechanic I feel is rather moot when all but 3 jobs in the game have some means of ignoring a mechanic which just simply inconvenients those playing those jobs.

It doesn't "inconvenience" them, it KILLS them. Range phy dps have to deal with knockbacks. That's not any different from melee having to deal with PBAoEs. Is it unfair to them because half of the jobs in the game don't have to deal with that? No, it's just part of the encounter. Same deal with casters dealing with interrupts or healers having to look at everyone's bars.