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    Quote Originally Posted by CrystalObsidian View Post
    Jumping is extremely unnecessary and a huge amount of games don't need it. And if you need it THAT badly to enjoy a game, then why the hell are you here, playing FFXIV, and basically telling other's that jump is necessary to bring in new players?
    cause new players expect it and adds depth to exploring and adventuring. get with the time fiend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Albela_Killingifritcom View Post
    jump is crucial. no jump can be a massive turnoff for some new players.
    The oposite could be said as well, considering the massive discussion this topic brings up every single time. It's a polarizing subject that people either love or hate, don't just assume that adding jump is going to stop new people from playing the game. For all you know having jump could turn people away from the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    The oposite could be said as well, considering the massive discussion this topic brings up every single time. It's a polarizing subject that people either love or hate, don't just assume that adding jump is going to stop new people from playing the game. For all you know having jump could turn people away from the game.
    oh please no one is going to be turned off by being able to jump. these humans who are offended by jumping are just ridiculous children and it just unheard of until now. if you dont like jumping dont jump.

    why should we players be shakled down because of humans with backwared views?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Albela_Killingifritcom View Post
    oh please no one is going to be turned off by being able to jump.
    Why would people be turned off by not being able to jump? It works both ways, besides there's been good MMOs that had a jump mechanic that does absolutely nothing and there's been crappy MMOs that has a jump mechanic that does something.

    Jumping isn't a crucial mechanic as plenty of good games and MMOs exists without it -- Crucial means "the game can't function without it." You could say that Jumping of players/Mount is a nice system to have but it is in no way important, or else games that have zero jump mechanic whether online or offline would have failed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
    Why would people be turned off by not being able to jump? It works both ways, besides there's been good MMOs that had a jump mechanic that does absolutely nothing and there's been crappy MMOs that has a jump mechanic that does something.

    Jumping isn't a crucial mechanic as plenty of good games and MMOs exists without it -- Crucial means "the game can't function without it." You could say that Jumping of players/Mount is a nice system to have but it is in no way important, or else games that have zero jump mechanic whether online or offline would have failed.
    oh please. many people's first mmorpg was wow and you could jump, so when these gus move on to next game they will expect some basic features, jump being one of them. not having it will be a step backwards for them. before ffxiv was released i noticed a lot of people complained about no jump. it is just ugly. why do we need a walking and run animation when your character could just slide around? the animation isnt crucial amirite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Albela_Killingifritcom View Post
    why do we need a walking and run animation when your character could just slide around? the animation isnt crucial amirite.
    You have to be trolling, nor could have posted this without laughing at yourself. Animation is crucial to interactive media, Jumping is in no way, shape or form on the same level of importance to a video game lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Albela_Killingifritcom View Post
    oh please. many people's first mmorpg was wow and you could jump, so when these gus move on to next game they will expect some basic features, jump being one of them. not having it will be a step backwards for them. before ffxiv was released i noticed a lot of people complained about no jump. it is just ugly. why do we need a walking and run animation when your character could just slide around? the animation isnt crucial amirite.
    So in other words you're stating every game that released without a jump mechanic of any genre failed?

    I'm pretty sure I've been gaming since the late 70s early 80s and I can't recall any game failing due to the lack of a jump command but rather the game itself being poorly done lol. Also, what does lack of animation for walking/running have to do with anything? That is actually important to a video game, plenty of games exists where you can't jump, which clearly means it's not this make or break game mechanic. Lots of people's first MMOs were MUDs, actually, but I guess you illustrated the problem with MMORPG gamers these days and why some people feel WoW invented the genre.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Albela_Killingifritcom View Post
    oh please no one is going to be turned off by being able to jump.
    I'd love to have a look into your crystal ball of all knowing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
    So in other words you're stating every game that released without a jump mechanic of any genre failed?

    I'm pretty sure I've been gaming since the late 70s early 80s and I can't recall any game failing due to the lack of a jump command but rather the game itself being poorly done lol. Also, what does lack of animation for walking/running have to do with anything? That is actually important to a video game, plenty of games exists where you can't jump, which clearly means it's not this make or break game mechanic. Lots of people's first MMOs were MUDs, actually, but I guess you illustrated the problem with MMORPG gamers these days and why some people feel WoW invented the genre.
    no, i am saying in other words that the game will be better with jump than without and there is no consequence.
    many small brooks will form a big river, and jump is one of these brooks.
    You have to be trolling, nor could have posted this without laughing at yourself. Animation is crucial to interactive media, Jumping is in no way, shape or form on the same level of importance to a video game lol.
    but it is important. right now with no jump you ar basically glued to the ground and cant walk down simple ledges, and if you can walk down, there is no animation for it. basically you are just sliding down. and if sliding down things is compeetely perfect, then why isnt sliding around enough for an animation instead of walking animation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrystalObsidian View Post
    Jumping is extremely unnecessary and a huge amount of games don't need it. And if you need it THAT badly to enjoy a game, then why the hell are you here, playing FFXIV, and basically telling other's that jump is necessary to bring in new players?
    It depends on how the game is designed and what the gameplay is like. But pretty much any 3D game that doesn't include either an auto-jump or manual jump will feel cumbersome and clunky.
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