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    Rieze_Xeero's Avatar
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    If you have a bad/new healer specially in the lower ranks you are bound to lose.

    Hello All,

    I been doing The Feast season 6 from day 01 and managed to go up (currently silver) but I really got bad luck this week with healers. I had matches were we were not even healed or with just one stun we are dead. I feels like the Feast is really a healer vs healer match. IDK does it feel like that in the upper ranks. Right now it feels if you have a good healer you will win or the chances are high. Getting tired
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    Mirchea Luslec
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    You have to understand some things:
    -There are lots of new players this season and the previous one, a player can take 1 match to be decent and understand the whole pvp and feast system, and another player might need 1000 matches or more to do so.
    -Healer is rellay stressfull, have you ever healed in pvp? not 8v8 or frontlines or rival wings, 4v4, you ever done it? if no then don't complain of your healers, if yes then, maybe you can try to contact them to help them out.
    -If you keep losing, your healers may not be the only problem.
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    Complete Season 4 Feast ( Old Battle system in PvP ) , is so hard , her not problem only healer , low DPS , miss contor enemy and more factor to play for win . 4 vs 4 its not only Healer vs Healer , need so better timework . I see good DRK why save me give me shield , i see bad DRK why run out of me and die , same on DPS .
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    Healers definitelly influence and decide the outcome the most. The best healers have 80% win rate all the way till Diamond, which can't be said about dps or tanks. For experienced healer carry potential of bad players is high, and for new healers there's high probability of lose even with good dps/tanks.
    And because it's such an important role, nobody wants to take responsibility and heal, they get instapops all day which is more beneficial for fast ranking even with a lot of loses. But at around platinum new healers should stop queing for XP and start doing it on a job they play the best, or their rating will stagnate. In previous seasons I've seen many healers with 800+ matches who couldn't get close to a Diamond.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post
    But at around platinum new healers should stop queing for XP and start doing it on a job they play the best, or their rating will stagnate.
    As a general rule, don't queue Ranked Feast for XP. Unranked 8v8 and now 4v4 exist to help facilitate this now, as well as allow a means of live practice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
    As a general rule, don't queue Ranked Feast for XP. Unranked 8v8 and now 4v4 exist to help facilitate this now, as well as allow a means of live practice.
    These modes are dead on Chaos. 4v4 training has never popped. 8vs8 was active for several hours every evening, but not a single pop after 4.15. There are no means to practice PvP now except Rival Wings.
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    Riyah Arpeggio
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    It's actually not that fun to heal the Feast. It's easier now, but it's a massive endurance contest the whole duration of the match. When you realize you could need 25-30 matches just to get out of unranked, most of the healers just wash out of it. Plus it feels like the low ranks have some really good people in them; the stupid promotions system keeps a lot of players trapped in lower ranks, which kind of poison what should be average skill brackets into higher skill ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post
    These modes are dead on Chaos. 4v4 training has never popped. 8vs8 was active for several hours every evening, but not a single pop after 4.15. There are no means to practice PvP now except Rival Wings.
    Just as with Seal Rock and Secure, if people want to play it bad enough, all they need to do is queue for it. Tell others to queue for it. I understand the actual ranked season is happening right now, thus most focus is on that, or on Rival Wings, but this only cements the idea that there really should be an "off" season, so as not to constantly shotgun players into ranked seasons and leave everything else neglected.
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    Unfortunately, yes.

    Remove the sole carry potential from healers, PvP will be way more fun.
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    Just do what you did back in season 3 man, you reach diamond back then
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