You wanna Tank in 8 and 24 Man content but stay OT?

[Canadane]

I don't really mind tanks that prefer to be OT, but there are times you gotta step it up. If you've queued as tank, prepare to tank.
As a tank main, it's baffling that someone wouldn't want to tank.

[Sylvina]

I don't really mind tanks that prefer to be OT, but there are times you gotta step it up. If you've queued as tank, prepare to tank.
As a tank main, it's baffling that someone wouldn't want to tank.

Yeah imagine refusing to keep boss aggro in fights with a tank swap lol.

[AngeloFlick]

Not only tanks, but healers coming into 24 mans and refusing to heal. They're just DPS'ing away while the actual DPS die slow deaths from accumulated unavoidable damage. Special shout out to the two healers in Dun Scaith last week who refused to load Esuna so that half our group was continuously on the floor from Doom.

[odie]

Not only tanks, but healers coming into 24 mans and refusing to heal.

Ran Rabanastre and my tank was MT. It seemed like it was ridiculously hard to heal when I noticed the other healer not dpsing or healing or anything. Just standing there. I confronted them about it and they said they only heal when they have to, like dangerously low health and that if I'm going to be a raid healer I have to let people get low first. I don't know where their logic came from that they think raid healers spend all that time standing there. But I have also noticed the lack of Esuna in content these days.

[SenorPatty]

Ran Rabanastre and my tank was MT. It seemed like it was ridiculously hard to heal when I noticed the other healer not dpsing or healing or anything. Just standing there. I confronted them about it and they said they only heal when they have to, like dangerously low health and that if I'm going to be a raid healer I have to let people get low first. I don't know where their logic came from that they think raid healers spend all that time standing there. But I have also noticed the lack of Esuna in content these days.

To be super fair, esuna tends to be left behind for skills that sees more use. It tremendously annoys me that SE made it a role skill and thus elevated it to an illusion of choice skill but that's how it rolls. By the time you remember you truly need it, you're already in combat trying to save everyone's asses cuz your co-healer is too busy drinking pina coladas and getting caught in the rain...

The rain of aoe death, that is.

[Deli]

Not only tanks, but healers coming into 24 mans and refusing to heal. They're just DPS'ing away while the actual DPS die slow deaths from accumulated unavoidable damage. Special shout out to the two healers in Dun Scaith last week who refused to load Esuna so that half our group was continuously on the floor from Doom.

/nod
it's just a general theme: People don't care and don't pay attention.
doesn't matter how clear the AoE mark is how long the AoE reading is, some people will just stood in there and die.

However, same thing applied to these tanking whm or blm...
When I see the boss running toward my rdm, I pop the Lucid Dreaming instantly and enjoy it go after these melees...
(and my whm/ast use Lucid Dreaming all the time...)

[HoodRat]

And don't get me started on those dps. Even when I'm tanking bosses, I'm still top 5 damage out of all 24 players. :^)

[Fynlar]

Many times as OT in a prolonged fight, I will throw an occasional Provoke, not to attempt to take over tanking but just to stay caught up with the MT in hate so I can maintain my DPS combos. This allows me to already have hate secured in case the MT is incapacitated or in case he needs to Shirk for whatever reason.

I've made use of this recently in particular on Lakshmi EX, which has a mechanic that specifically targets the person 2nd on hate. If you want to have a more "seamless" Provoke (that is, the mob ideally won't even turn to face you even for a moment), use your Provoke while the foe is in the middle of using something else. In Lakshmi's case, I usually used it while she was readying Pull of Light (the tank buster. don't worry, it won't cause you to be hit instead; the target is presumably determined when it starts being readied)

Provoke has its uses aside from just tank swaps. Make use of it; it's a much more potentially powerful ability here than it ever was in FFXI.

[Moomba33]

Happened to me recently in Lakshmi story mode in Trial Roulette.
I was main tanking and died (the group was struggling overall and the healers were busy with raises and trying to clean up dps mistakes too). I switched to off-tanking when I was revived because I assumed the other tank would pick her up but nope...look up to see a DRG tanking and the other tank sitting around #3 in aggro so I Provoked and went back to main tanking.

I've seen the opposite too in that fight as a healer. Tank died and was revived, other tank picked her up fine but then the first tank insisted on fighting for aggro and tanking her with weakness. Not as big a deal now with weakness not lowering HP but it was still strange to me. Seems like a lot of tanks in DF don't want to work with their co-tank and just lock themselves into the MT/OT slot.

[Gemina]

I've yet to tank my first 8-man, and this was one of the things that concerned me about it since the majority of the time in DF there isn't much communication between the tanks.

I'm glad I read this thread to see how some of you deal with it. Hopefully no too many mind that I prefer to MT.