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  1. #541
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    Quote Originally Posted by Verius_Nox View Post
    I'd like better options for male casters. Changed to female a while ago because I was tired of only having 1 decent caster set to wear for the last 4 years.
    The Republican set being one of the worst examples of the above. Their design aesthetic has gotten worse over time for DoM sets. BLM and RDM get decent sets for male toons, but the shared ones with other DOM tend to be abysmal, nevermind the healer sets, barring AST.

    Quote Originally Posted by KaijinRhada View Post
    I am having trouble trying to picture what this would look like on male Au Ra...
    Their scales are meant to be their facial hair. It's even lined in such a way.
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  2. #542
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    I don't dig the fishnets and the shoes though I'll probably still get it if only to have that +1 tick on their logs so that they'll see interest. My guy alts also have enough MGP to burn on it so that'll be that. As to what I'll actually wear, the ears definitely, probably the tops. Sleeves depends on how they'll look though being the closest we'll ever get to the Thavnairian sleeves I can see people using it too. Will probably combo it with the Yafaemi healer and caster pants for those classes, probably that Ruby cotton boxer-shorts for the healers, but will need to find something for my tanks which'll probably run this more. But as was beaten to death, with the exception of a unique vest-like top, the look I'm after can easily be recreated in-game, so I mostly needed the ears. Maybe the sleeves, we'll see.
    I'm mostly over the initial disappointment, which is really "not what I hoped for" rather than "it's bad". Ultimately this is kind of ridiculously huge to have SE deliver something like that, too bad it'll probably be reduced to a joke by both the playerbase and most likely the game itself by being used for lawls in a Hildy quest or something. At this point that's what rubs me off the wrong way the most, like when Hildy wore a dress and that was supposed to be the punchline of that scene.
    For the bunny suit, I wouldn't consider using most of it, especially from the lower body downwards.

    As for Hildibrand, I've never liked him or that part of the story, so no love lost there.
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  3. #543
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    I'll probably just use the bent bunny ears on my male characters and that's it. If I even resub again.
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  4. #544
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pomelo View Post
    I'll probably just use the bent bunny ears on my male characters and that's it. If I even resub again.
    This forum will be far less fun without you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Well, I just hope when 4.3 arrives we don't end up with another two feminine/androgynous hairstyles. With glamour being such a large part of the game it's starting to get a bit irritating to feel like I'm missing out. It never used to be that way, either. Yet there's been a notable shift away from embracing masculinity.

    With WoW actively embracing things like Allied Races as a clever workaround for 'more options' for playable races and customisation options I have to admit I feel like FFXIV needs to do more. Even requests for simple things like more facial hair options seem to fall on deaf ears.
    It's a Japanese game what do you expect? They don't give a crap about what NA/EU wants. Their taste on gear fashion designs is what you could expect from a JP dev. Weird looking feminine stuff and lots of designs made only with females in mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riardon View Post
    It's a Japanese game what do you expect? They don't give a crap about what NA/EU wants. Their taste on gear fashion designs is what you could expect from a JP dev. Weird looking feminine stuff and lots of designs made only with females in mind.
    It doesn't really matter if it's a Japanese game. That's just a defeatist attitude - other people may enjoy rolling over and offering themselves up to be screwed over, but I'm not one of them. So I will post about this day in, day out for as long as it takes to be heard. I urge others to do the same and to remain constructive whilst doing so. Only then will our voices be heard...even if it only results in a bone being thrown our way every now and then to shut us up.
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  7. #547
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riardon View Post
    It's a Japanese game what do you expect? They don't give a crap about what NA/EU wants. Their taste on gear fashion designs is what you could expect from a JP dev. Weird looking feminine stuff and lots of designs made only with females in mind.
    JP devs are perfectly able to design male outfits, as they do in other games and as they also do in anime, so this is a bizarre assertion. SE has consistently done so throughout many of its games. That being said, if they want some 50% of their income to evaporate, they can ignore their NA/EU audience, and the fact that the char demographics are split evenly more or less between males and females, with the predictable exceptions of au ra and miqo'te.

    However, if they're ok with adding blatantly female outfits for males solely due to a tiny but vocal subset of the NA community, they can listen to those with more reasonable demands, too.
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  8. #548
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    JP devs are perfectly able to design male outfits, as they do in other games
    This is coming from the same company who made Wol from Mobius TOO sexy and had to butch him up a little >.<
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Well, I just hope when 4.3 arrives we don't end up with another two feminine/androgynous hairstyles. With glamour being such a large part of the game it's starting to get a bit irritating to feel like I'm missing out. It never used to be that way, either. Yet there's been a notable shift away from embracing masculinity.
    Just wondering about the "extra hairstyles" since people keep bringing this up. I only started playing at about the time Stormblood was released, so I'm not sure how many hairstyles have been added to the original list, but I assume the last several on the list are 'late additions' (as they're unisex and available to all races) and it seems only the last couple have been really feminine.

    From the previous patch, the twin-buns style is feminine but the spiky ponytail looks very 'male anime character'. The two before that also look like (more normal) male hairstyles, and several before it look unisex but not feminine.

    Though interestingly, both the hairstyles from the recent patch got used on male characters....

    (Personally I'd like more 'longer hair' options for male characters. Even the official character designs keep using that same one nice shoulder-length hairstyle on multiple characters, so clearly they need more options.)


    Quote Originally Posted by KaijinRhada View Post
    I am having trouble trying to picture what [Nero's stubble] would look like on male Au Ra...
    That could be the reason for them not releasing any male hairstyles with stubble! (And I do suspect it would have to be added as part of the hairstyle, because you don't seem to be able to get new options for other face elements.) Which in turn might be why they haven't released Hien or Nero's hairstyles.
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    Last edited by Iscah; 04-11-2018 at 05:58 PM.

  10. #550
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Though interestingly, both the hairstyles from the recent patch got used on male characters....
    And they're giving us the bunny outfit for male characters, does that make it masculine? (well depends on how you wear it I guess but you get my point). Look also at how they advertised it - on female characters, and you're going to be hard pressed to find too many male playable characters who actually use it. Not saying they don't exist, just not half as much as female charas. Also not the best connotation when both those male charas are antagonists at best, villains at worst.

    That could be the reason for them not releasing any male hairstyles with stubble!
    Then they could add it to at least selected races and leave it as one of those racial differences people seem to want to see more of. Hyurs, Lalafell, Elezen iirc, to name a few, all have existing facial hair slots. They could add those as new options to an already existing customization option, since we know they don't want to add new options altogether, but adding more options to an existing category should be easy enough - they do it all the time with the hairstyles.

    Which in turn might be why they haven't released Hien or Nero's hairstyles.
    Hien's hairstyle already exists in the game though? You mentioned it yourself, while not as exaggerated, it's basically the same style.
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