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  1. #61
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    AkashiXI's Avatar
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    Akashi Mousai
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    This is dumb. I don’t want the outfit but this can easily be unisex. Take the white part off on the top and make the jacket open, and make the white part of the pants fully fill out the legs. Boom, there’s your male version. I’m not on the game at the moment, but it’s like the outfit (used to be a lv50 Bard exclusive body piece but now there’s a job all lv1 equivalent) where the jacket is open — for women there’s a bra, for men it’s simply open.

    How hard is that, honestly?
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  2. #62
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    Singularity's Avatar
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    Ariane Aster
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    Quote Originally Posted by AkashiXI View Post
    I don’t want the outfit but this can easily be unisex.
    All of the outfits can be, it's not hard per se or that they don't know how to do it. It's just that it's all work that needs to be scheduled and done by SE's 3D modelling staff, who presumably have a fair amount of other work to do as well. If you think this change needs prioritising, then that's a perfectly fair attitude, but be aware that that means something else has to get pushed down the priority list.
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  3. #63
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    CosmicKirby's Avatar
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    Lulumia Lumia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    at least for the mog station NPC clothes... they ARE equal now, after a long time with more male only than female only clothes to buy.

    Male

    1 Aymeric
    2 New Thancred
    3 Thancred
    4 Urianger
    5 Cid
    6 Papalymo

    Female

    1 Lyse
    2 New Y'shtola
    3 Yshtola
    4 Minfilia
    5 Yda
    6 Edda

    (all the other gender locked gear has a male only and a female only version. and there are Snow and Lightning, wich would be number 7 maybe)

    however, sure, they could get rid of all the gender locking stuff. but it's simply not true that males get nothing.
    Quoting this because someone else did.

    Doomsayers coming out of the woodwork after 2 female ones in a row.
    Even though they 'have' been better about things, The Hannish set having a male/female/unisex option.

    Wait for the inevitable Gosetsu, Zenos, and Hien outfits. Everything is going to be OK.


    (And by far the bigger issue is that none of these large-meal equivalent-priced digital items are even dyable.)
    (And we're still waiting on both Krile's outfit and the Male Bunny outfit, both have had an 'They're coming' official word since Heavensward.)
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  4. #64
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    Mirn Armaya
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by AkashiXI View Post
    How hard is that, honestly?
    Not hard at all, but most likely a mix of development vs expected revenue, "keeping gender locked outfits for the sake of staying unique", and SE being a tad behind what their ears should listen to.
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  5. #65
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    Renard Lefeuvre
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    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    If you think this change needs prioritising, then that's a perfectly fair attitude, but be aware that that means something else has to get pushed down the priority list.
    Yes, I think that they should put 'more NPC glamours for half their playerbase only' somewhere below 'making the bunny ears equippable by everyone like they specifically promised during a Japanese interview back in 2015'. As I've said before, I could do that in an afternoon (seriously S-E, the offer is open, you know my contact details). We've had two expansions since people were asking for such a simple thing, and three other sets of animal ears. It's silly.

    I understand the realities of juggling priorities but when we get a timeline like this, it feels as though there's a distinct systemic bias rather than a few coincidental accidents.

    Game launch: Everything is fair.
    ARR: Some things become unfair to male characters, but we'll fix it, we promise.
    HW: Have more female-only bunny glamour items instead of the unisex version of just the ears we promised before.
    HW: The solution that we came up with is to release more male-only glamours in Mog Station.
    HW: We're totally still working on that male bunny suit, honest, but we're busy.
    SB: We're way too busy to ever finish adapting the bunny ears, but Edda came out a few months ago and you thought she was cute - here you go, ladies!
    SB: Last time the ladies got something special... so here's a little something for the ladies again! Psyche!
    SB: Actually we now have the same number of glamours in MS, and fewer haircuts, and there are way more unreleased female-only outfits than male ones lined up for years to come. Enjoy!

    And that's not even going into all of the reskins and subpar male items now, which are subjective opinions (if you're really optimistic). This is atrocious marketing from any company which wants to retain customer loyalty from the less pretty* half of its playerbase.

    * in the eyes of the dev team, apparently.
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    Last edited by Serilda; 11-28-2017 at 02:30 AM.

  6. #66
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    Rokke's Avatar
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    Novia Marius
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    at least for the mog station NPC clothes... they ARE equal now, after a long time with more male only than female only clothes to buy.

    Male

    1 Aymeric
    2 New Thancred
    3 Thancred
    4 Urianger
    5 Cid
    6 Papalymo

    Female

    1 Lyse
    2 New Y'shtola
    3 Yshtola
    4 Minfilia
    5 Yda
    6 Edda

    (all the other gender locked gear has a male only and a female only version. and there are Snow and Lightning, wich would be number 7 maybe)

    however, sure, they could get rid of all the gender locking stuff. but it's simply not true that males get nothing.
    Male
    1 Aymeric <- his hairstyle is made unisex
    2 New Thancred
    3 Thancred can be nearly recreated in game for free
    4 Urianger can be nearly recreated in game for free
    5 Cid <- his hairstyle is made unisex and in game for free
    6 Papalymo can be nearly recreated in game for free

    Female
    1 Lyse
    2 New Y'shtola
    3 Yshtola can be nearly recreated in game for free
    4 Minfilia
    5 Ydacan be nearly recreated in game for free
    6 Edda

    Female hair is locked to females only, male hair is either unisex, given in game, or unisex and given in game. The only 100% unique male outfit is Thancred's 3.0 set lol
    I left tera because my male castanic got nothing. Seeing male characters get the short end of the stick here too is irritating.

    Quote Originally Posted by Serilda View Post
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    Will miss your posts dude ;_;7
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    Last edited by Rokke; 11-28-2017 at 03:03 AM.

  7. #67
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    DreamAngel-Ren's Avatar
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    Ren Kurosaki
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    When I woke up and heard that Lyse's outfit was available, I got all excited thinking it was her current one - the Ala Mhigan folk dress
    But when I went to Mog and noticed it wasn't it, I sort of laughed XD

    I'll just wait until her new outfit (plus the hair) is ready for purchase
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    [super inactive on this Forum LOL]

  8. #68
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    HakaseNyan's Avatar
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    Suzu Hakase
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    Samurai Lv 90
    On no! Why is this npc-unique outfit for sale, and also not for the opposite gender of the npc it's unique to. This is truly terrible.

    It's kind of a shame that it can't be dyed. The jacket doesn't have intricate color shading like the Blackblossom Dress. Also, the sports top is a different (sweaty) shade of white; doesn't match the bottoms.

    I bet they'll add the hair later, as a separate purchase, or with the dress outfit.
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  9. #69
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    Maeror Montealvo
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    Quote Originally Posted by HakaseNyan View Post
    I bet they'll add the hair later, as a separate purchase, or with the dress outfit.
    Now would be the time to begin requesting a dye-able version and hair option obtainable in game. We all know it's on the way, why not garner support to have it not be in the cash shop? In the end at least an attempt will be made.

    SE, this outfit and hair style is requested to be placed in game as a quest reward and not a purchase in the mog station. The attire pictured below is not only iconic to the main story quest but also would make a great reward for palyers that have been invested in the Ala Mhigo storyline. As a personal touch the attire should be made in to fit into the five corresponding equipment slots (from top to bottom) Earrings, dress, arm guards, pants, and boots, to include the option to dye all items individually from one another. Expected with the outfit would be Lyse's hair option for all races.

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  10. #70
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    Areic Davrun
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Serilda View Post
    Yes, I think that they should put 'more NPC glamours for half their playerbase only' somewhere below 'making the bunny ears equippable by everyone like they specifically promised during a Japanese interview back in 2015'. As I've said before, I could do that in an afternoon (seriously S-E, the offer is open, you know my contact details). We've had two expansions since people were asking for such a simple thing, and three other sets of animal ears. It's silly.
    "Half of the playerbase"

    Two things, the game actually has many more female characters than males from my experience. And even if it were a 50/50 split of characters by gender, that doesn't mean there's a demand for it.

    You're a minority, there aren't flocks of men wanting to run around in feminine outfits judging from other post I've seen from you, correct me if I'm wrong please. or bunny ears ( Though for at least the ears alone I will admit it's weird men don't have the option )

    While generally they should take the time to make male and female versions of each set. It seems they take the easy route of releasing what models currently already fit the bodies. And for having say a 100% female outfit on a male ( IE the bunny attire altogether), I don't approve as it'd look silly, to each their own if you want that, it just isn't highly demanded, thus why they don't seem to take the time on it.

    This isn't a flame post by all means, just my take on why they aren't particularly huge on this stuff.
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    Last edited by Areic; 11-28-2017 at 05:50 AM.

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