Dear Development Team: Tank Balance

[Daniel_Fury]

I agree with this post mainly bar the TBN on auto attacks. In all savage raids and shinryu, you can mitigate auto attacks with TBN with a full tenacity set at max ilvl. The timing is to pop TBN as soon as you take an auto attack and it should break providing you don't have another mitigation CD active or have grit activated and providing the boss will use 2 more auto attacks.

Even if you choose to use TBN like this you will still suffer a total DPS loss for the encounter. I do find that using TBN like this (especially in Shinryu) allows DRKS defense to be incredibly powerful.

[Chrono_Rising]

I agree with this post mainly bar the TBN on auto attacks. In all savage raids and shinryu, you can mitigate auto attacks with TBN with a full tenacity set at max ilvl. The timing is to pop TBN as soon as you take an auto attack and it should break providing you don't have another mitigation CD active or have grit activated and providing the boss will use 2 more auto attacks.

Even if you choose to use TBN like this you will still suffer a total DPS loss for the encounter. I do find that using TBN like this (especially in Shinryu) allows DRKS defense to be incredibly powerful.

I think I probably wasn't clear enough. In my post I am talking about using TBN with grit. When we talk about tank defense I tried to make an distinction between where tank stance is used and not used but I think I failed. I'll try to edit the OP to be more clear.

I know V1s and Shinryu are on the boarder of where the shield will break. I do not have a full tenacity set and take on average 6.5k damage in both turns without tank stance, in tank stance (which many players also use) the shield will not break even with proper timing to catch two autos.

[Daniel_Fury]

I think I probably wasn't clear enough. In my post I am talking about using TBN with grit. When we talk about tank defense I tried to make an distinction between where tank stance is used and not used but I think I failed. I'll try to edit the OP to be more clear.

I know V1s and Shinryu are on the boarder of where the shield will break. I do not have a full tenacity set and take on average 6.5k damage in both turns without tank stance, in tank stance (which many players also use) the shield will not break even with proper timing to catch two autos.

No worries, this makes more sense. In Grit, with capped gear it's near impossible to break on autos.

[Ekimmak]

I agree with this post mainly bar the TBN on auto attacks. In all savage raids and shinryu, you can mitigate auto attacks with TBN with a full tenacity set at max ilvl. The timing...

Forget anything about timing. You can't claim something will work if you just do it at a right moment, because this is an online game. You can't ever depend on gcds or auto-attacks to line up correctly.

[Daniel_Fury]

Forget anything about timing. You can't claim something will work if you just do it at a right moment, because this is an online game. You can't ever depend on gcds or auto-attacks to line up correctly.

It's a skill with a 5 second duration. If the enemy uses 2 auto attacks in 4 seconds and it breaks then yes, timing is neccessary. Timing your defensive skills to make the most out of it is part of tanking efficiently and if you know the fight well enough, it's child play to know the boss will use 2 autos after X spell has been cast.

[Ekimmak]

It's a skill with a 5 second duration. If the enemy uses 2 auto attacks in 4 seconds and it breaks then yes, timing is neccessary. Timing your defensive skills to make the most out of it is part of tanking efficiently and if you know the fight well enough, it's child play to know the boss will use 2 autos after X spell has been cast.

Yeah, but I can't rely on my own connection to time things that precisely.

I know that if I use Awareness 15 seconds before I pull Halicanarsus, it'll be up for her first critical hit, and off cooldown just in time for her second. I know that if I use it before her second Queenly Waltz in library phase, it'll still be up for her critical hit. What I can't do is time a TBN to take two auto-attacks, because an auto-attack will always land before or after the auto hits. It's just not going to happen, and I don't think it's fair to for people to say otherwise.

[Daniel_Fury]

Yeah, but I can't rely on my own connection to time things that precisely.

I know that if I use Awareness 15 seconds before I pull Halicanarsus, it'll be up for her first critical hit, and off cooldown just in time for her second. I know that if I use it before her second Queenly Waltz in library phase, it'll still be up for her critical hit. What I can't do is time a TBN to take two auto-attacks, because an auto-attack will always land before or after the auto hits. It's just not going to happen, and I don't think it's fair to for people to say otherwise.

To be fair, that sounds like a dropping connection issue and no amount of help is going to save you on an active mitigation job.

I'm a player with a ping above 200ms so believe me when I understand but I found out how to do it with practice, I believe others can do the same.

I use the TBN as soon as i see the auto attack damage hits me. It won't block that auto, but if I know 2 more are coming (due to fight awareness) it will break.

If you are losing packets in your connection (which I assume is what you're referring to) then even boss cast times will be spontaneous and throw TBN off.