Crafted Items Vs Dropped items

[Shosasosa]

I think one of the biggest mistakes this game has made was the addition of materia. In 1.18... when darkhold was king, the gear u got from there was the best gear you could get anywhere. Now with the materia system added hypothetically i could go and buy 1 billion gil and pay people to quadruple meld me the best gear in the game without stepping foot outside a city. As of now all the items you can get from killing Primals, farming chests (besides sentinel's) or doing darkhold cant compete with the double and triple melds some people have. On top of that the gear that you can get out of the events is really hard to get whether it be farming a chest for 3 hours to get maybe 2 pieces of mediocre gear or by spamming a primal run over and over getting nothing, or something you already have, or cant even use. If they are gonna make dropped items so hard to obtain AT LEAST make them better than a double melded crafted item. Right now all event type gear is a "look at me" piece not actually very useable in most cases.

I'm really excited about the new classes and the JSE and weapons they will have and they said the weapons will be very hard to obtain.... but if the stats on them are about as good as the current weapons and armor we can get from the current events why even bother.

[Shiki_Lockhart]

I am trying to get a answer about that with Devs here.

But until now no answer

Is like you said and what i am trying to say in other topic is all SH gear are kinda useless if they aren't meldable since double materia gets better than that :|

[syntaxlies]

devs need to open there eyes. gear is the life force that drives mmos. People want to spend alot of time farming gear that is good. When crafted gear is best it makes the point of all content obsolete. nothing but a bunch of novelty pieces.

[Shosasosa]

I dont even care if they are meldable or not, but if they make the stats on them good enough to compete against melded gear then people would be out trying to get that gear instead of spamming enter in town by themselves.

The reason making them meldable doesnt fix the problem is because say all stronghold gear is meldable, but considering the stats on the gear is about the same or slightly better than a standard crafted piece with no materia..... People will just use crafted pieces anyway cuz it takes 30 seconds to make one compared to a couple hours to farm a dropped item.

In order for people to want to go farm items the gear has to be better than a double meld because otherwise it would a lot easier to just sit in town like everyone is doing now trying to make triple melds.

[Shosasosa]

In my opinion Materia should be used as a way to SUPPLEMENT crafted items so it can be comparable to dropped gear. Materia should be a way for people who cant play all the time to have gear that is close to the level of gear that must be farmed. Materia should NOT be the way to get the best gear in the game. Getting rid of multimelds AND making dropped gear stats better would be the best way in my opinion to make this happen.

[Yelta_Sumasu]

In my opinion Materia should be used as a way to SUPPLEMENT crafted items so it can be comparable to dropped gear. Materia should be a way for people who cant play all the time to have gear that is close to the level of gear that must be farmed. Materia should NOT be the way to get the best gear in the game. Getting rid of multimelds AND making dropped gear stats better would be the best way in my opinion to make this happen.

^ this, Materia should be a way to get gear that is almost as good as dropped gear.

Also, in my opinion best-in-slot should never be something you can just buy from the Market Wards...

[Shosasosa]

Either that or have gear with a specific number of slots for materia. like crafted gear would only have 1 slot for materia and rare crafted gear like dodore doublet or Vintage items would have 2 slots. gear from dungeons would have 3 and so forth

[Viridiana]

I think one of the biggest mistakes this game has made was the addition of materia. In 1.18... when darkhold was king, the gear u got from there was the best gear you could get anywhere. Now with the materia system added hypothetically i could go and buy 1 billion gil and pay people to quadruple meld me the best gear in the game without stepping foot outside a city. As of now all the items you can get from killing Primals, farming chests (besides sentinel's) or doing darkhold cant compete with the double and triple melds some people have. On top of that the gear that you can get out of the events is really hard to get whether it be farming a chest for 3 hours to get maybe 2 pieces of mediocre gear or by spamming a primal run over and over getting nothing, or something you already have, or cant even use. If they are gonna make dropped items so hard to obtain AT LEAST make them better than a double melded crafted item. Right now all event type gear is a "look at me" piece not actually very useable in most cases.

I'm really excited about the new classes and the JSE and weapons they will have and they said the weapons will be very hard to obtain.... but if the stats on them are about as good as the current weapons and armor we can get from the current events why even bother.

Actually, very few of the Batraal weapons were ever the best; they were usually tied by +1/+2 gear and beaten by +3s. There were exceptions, of course, but not many. Similarly, Helm of the Lone Knight was just a remodeled Silver Tricorne; the stats were identical, so a +1 Tricorne removed the need to ever have the Helm unless you wanted bragging rights. . .

Not that I'm disagreeing with you, but I'm not really holding out much hope for these guys to ever get a clue in regards to making gear. . .

[Shosasosa]

i wasnt too familiar with the melee gear cuz i went as mage and all the mage items in darkhold were the best pieces you could have at the time

[Viridiana]

i wasnt too familiar with the melee gear cuz i went as mage and all the mage items in darkhold were the best pieces you could have at the time

Hmmm. . . my old notes seem to put the Vintage series on par with the Claret series, but I'm far from a caster, so I doubt I took everything into consideration there. Curious, though: how did the Astaroth Cane compare to a Jade Crook +2?

Note: according to my old notes, I was wrong before about NQ Tricornes being equal to the Helm; however, a +1 was arguably better, and a +2 was better in every way. Tricorne +3 was probably all-around best gear in the game for melee unless you were stacking HP for some crazy reason.