Healers are way too strong in large scale PvP.

[saucyshortcake]

Since you picked BLM, in 2 GCD's the BLM has done 5000 damage to me from 2 Fire IV's, I have done maybe 1k damage to them. It will end up in a stalemate if it is 1v1. Add another DPS to the equation and then the healer will be on their heels trying to outrun the DPS. If a MCH/BRD goes up against a BLM, SMN, or melee dps they are likely going to win in a 1v1 situation. So 1v1 is always questionable and most people are better off going into a 2v1 situation.

Look, we're happy for you and that you've found a play mode that is essentially God, but you clearly have zero understanding of what makes good game balance if you think the current setup is acceptable, and that people should just avoid any part of the map that has a HealerGod present. Maybe when a team can cheat and bring in 3 dps per healer the enemy team has, your grand design will actually work.

[Wintersandman]

Look, we're happy for you and that you've found a play mode that is essentially God, but you clearly have zero understanding of what makes good game balance if you think the current setup is acceptable, and that people should just avoid any part of the map that has a HealerGod present. Maybe when a team can cheat and bring in 3 dps per healer the enemy team has, your grand design will actually work.

Honestly I hate Rival Wings. Once I get my mount I will suffer 30-120 min queue times for Frontlines because they are more PvP oriented. Let's say a team brings 24 healers and another team brings a mix. The team with the mix is most likely going to win because they can do things faster than a team of just healers. If it is as unbalanced as you portray than the 24 healers would dominate.

Also focusing on a PK is a waste of time in Rival Wings. You would be better spent burning a mech, hitting a tower, hitting the core or gathering CE. If a healer does attack you while gathering CE, they are not gathering any either.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

Honestly, as much as no one wants to hear it, give it a little time, and SE will address this issue with healers. Team imbalances or tactics to fuel a bad meta are what they don't want (lest people begin avoiding the mode for that very reason). It's what got Sleep nerfed and Freelancer forced on premades. SE claims to read and take in feedback here, and the number 1 thing being said repeatedly is "Healers are too OP/Having multiple healers ruins balance/etc." I still say they ought to look to Soaring first so as not to rock the boat too much, but if that proves not enough, then bigger measures can be taken.

For now though, have patience, and keep the feedback coming. I'm asking a lot in saying that, and I know I'm notoriously impatient with SE's handling of PvP related issues. But something WILL happen. Because they can't afford not to do anything about it.

[Etrius]

But something WILL happen. Because they can't afford not to do anything about it.

I'm losing my faith in PvP with every patch and I'm probably the only one that believe that's not going to happen because they don't want to hurt the "healer community".

If nothing happens by 4.2 i'm quitting this game for good. Because I just can't deal with another batch of «trashmob>boss» dungeons and the same formula the devs find "safe".

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

I don't blame you one bit. In many ways I share your sentiments too. Much of what held my interest in the game was lost with 4.0 and the many questionable changes they've made since then.

[Mirch]

Healers are not way too strong in large scale PvP

[Guesswhat]

Even a very skilled DPS would not be able to solo a capable healer, that's fine. And if the class difference on teams were evenly distributed there wouldn't be much of a "healer OP problem". The issue is the numbers they're in and the eternal resources they have. Peeps seemingly have understood how OP heals are if they team up. In just about every match I've been in lately there is a small healer team holding mid with little to no effort. Random pug teams don't know how to coordinate cc and burst, and it comical to watch healers survive for 5+ mins long fights with less than 0 effort lol.

So, yeah, nerf the soaring buff, and make their resources a bit more expandable. How a scholar could ever run out of MP is one of mankind's greatest mysteries. Or make DPS have eternal resources for burst potential, that could work too, and would be equally comical.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

I thought it was a fair balance point when a good healer could sustain against a good DPS, but could not deal much damage to them. Now they can, and can still sustain against them. That's a point to consider as well.

Now, if some uppity healer comes and attacks me while I'm pushing mammets, I wave to them and keep pushing mammets. Can't heal that tower back up. Kill me? Okay, I'll be back on your tower in a few seconds.

[Awha]

You can't kill a healer 1v1, even with CC and limit break.

1v1 me and you'll find out. (fite me bro)

Maybe you had luck once, or fought against a newbie; but you can't kill 1v1 a healer that knows how to heal.

Did he ever fight you? Would love to know the outcome.

On topic, I do not pvp much but I can say this if a horrible player like myself is able to not be killed by 4 dps as an AST, something is wrong with the current system. Being as I can barely get away with getting tunneled in other forms, I do think soaring is the problem. The buff simply benefits healers far too much. In my eyes no way should a scrub player like myself be able to tank even the worst dps solo to the point where they simply give up.

[Arazehl]

Healers shouldn't be that hard to kill on either side in RW. It's terrible the way it is now. Takes 3 to 4 to kill 1 healer. What kind of messed up ratio is that?