Yoshi-P says discussions about FFXIV on Switch and Xbox One are "Positive"

[Sarevok_Thordin]

Ok but the thread isn't about other cross role titles, it's about FFXIV which currently is unavailable to play on Xbox because of a restrictions Microsoft are setting that SE do not agree with. Microsoft are preventing it, and they are at fault on this occasion.

When did the last news come out that said this?

[jameseoakes]

When did the last news come out that said this?

A Kotaku interview turned up to day with it, here's the section on cross play. By the looks of it Microsoft are still the problem, but SE are aware that Sony is going to be a problem but things haven't got far enough for them to even speak to them about it

“We had discussions with Andrew House before, but with the transition to a new president I’m afraid we have not properly met them yet, had proper introductions, or sat down for a discussion,” Yoshida said. (Sony’s new president, Kenichiro Yoshida, started in April.)

“So unfortunately we don’t have any visibility on the current stance Sony is taking. We’re hoping that with the transition there may be some kind of shift but we have not had the opportunity to sit down and discuss.”

Quote taken from the Kotaku page.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

A Kotaku interview turned up to day with it, here's the section on cross play. By the looks of it Microsoft are still the problem, but SE are aware that Sony is going to be a problem but things haven't got far enough for them to even speak to them about it

“We had discussions with Andrew House before, but with the transition to a new president I’m afraid we have not properly met them yet, had proper introductions, or sat down for a discussion,” Yoshida said. (Sony’s new president, Kenichiro Yoshida, started in April.)

“So unfortunately we don’t have any visibility on the current stance Sony is taking. We’re hoping that with the transition there may be some kind of shift but we have not had the opportunity to sit down and discuss.”

Quote taken from the Kotaku page.

It also states that Microsoft have not waived the policies that are keeping Yoshi-P from putting the game on their system either,.

[Mahri]

There is no scenario in which more players in an MMO is not an extremely good thing.

[Kyuuen]

There is no scenario in which more players in an MMO is not an extremely good thing.

I agree to an extent. However I'd rather not see them port the game over to a device that will become the next meme about not being able to get something done due to limitations. We just recently cut a system out for that very reason, why reintroduce what will become the next excuse?

[KisaiTenshi]

I agree to an extent. However I'd rather not see them port the game over to a device that will become the next meme about not being able to get something done due to limitations. We just recently cut a system out for that very reason, why reintroduce what will become the next excuse?

The issues are basically two technical and one political/money.

Sony doesn't want cross-play because of the potential for users on other platforms to cheat, and it wants it's cut of subscriber revenue
Microsoft doesn't want cross-play because then they won't get their cut from the Live requirement.
Nintendo is more than willing to allow cross-play, but their systems are significantly weaker than the competition.

Steam (PC/Mac) wants their cut if subscribed via Steam, however "Steam" versions of games tend to only involve the initial purchase.

Windows and MacOS stand-alone versions are the only versions that actually aren't hobbled by some political/money issue. However the PC platform is also the one with the weakest toasters and potatos playing it.

So the tech issue is actually the weakest one. The Xbone, PS4, Switch and a $800 laptop are within the same realm of performance. Citing "cheating" as a reason to not support cross-platform is actually kinda insane because no platform is free of cheating, especially not the PC. MMORPG's however are client-server setups and the extent to "cheating" we see are not the same kinds of cheats that FPS and PvP RPG games are overwhelmed with. The lack of any open world PvP is what largely prevents being able to grief or harass players in the game.

So it's just about money. Making "PS4-only" or "Xbox Live only" servers defeats the purpose of having a MMORPG, because that gives the game a definitive end-of-life. If Microsoft wants to keep pretending that MMORPG's are not a thing, they are more than welcome to keep refusing money.

[ko_]

Even if sony said -yes- you still have to deal with Xbox's issue with needing GOLD to play which YP doesn't want. So either way it goes it's going to still be mircosoft who needs to change also. Changing the goal post doesn't change the fact xbox users would still need gold to play. which is a no no.

[TaranTatsuuchi]

Even if sony said -yes- you still have to deal with Xbox's issue with needing GOLD to play which YP doesn't want. So either way it goes it's going to still be mircosoft who needs to change also. Changing the goal post doesn't change the fact xbox users would still need gold to play. which is a no no.

As I recall, they also wanted their own servers so they could have players segregate themselves from the other platforms...

[FelixDaCat]

I think it's a shame Sony are blocking cross platform support. It's making them look bad, considering they have such a market lead over the XBone , they should at least be open to multi platform support, this late in the consoles life. In the next 3 years we will be on the PS5 and Xbox4 . I hope this game gets moved onto the PS5 early on as I love playing on my PS4Pro , but would be amazed to see this game at it's full potentional.

[Subucnimorning]

I would love to have FFXIV on the switch. Sadly, I don't see it happening. The switch has a lot of graphical limitations