Yoshi-P says discussions about FFXIV on Switch and Xbox One are "Positive"

[alimdia]

Things are getting mixed up. Xbox was the one that initially didn't want cross play, back then when PS4 and Xbox were more or less in equal footing in the market, it wasn't until PS4 went way ahead in the market that Xbox decided to seek crossplay, but now Sony doesn't want it because they get no benefit from it, they are already ahead and there's no way Xbox can catch up until the next gen console.

Right now the two biggest roadblock here are: Sony, because they started to deny crossplay to every single game now (go read what Fortnite and Rocket League had to do to work around this), and Microsoft because there's no way they would waive XBL payment just for FFXIV, and SE won't make players pay for two subs.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Please link to me any article where Yoshi-P states its MS fault and unwillingness to cross-platform. I know Gold is a requirement for every online game (minus free ones). That has nothing to do with cross-play and everything to do with maintaining a strict structure on the games requiring Xbox Live Gold. FFXI worked with Xbox, and they made an exception to the Xbox Live Gold rule specifically for that title, but they adamantly refused to do it for Xbox One and any game going forward.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/07/...60-or-xbox-one

[Juxtapose]

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/07/...60-or-xbox-one

Again, that article seems to be specifically referencing the Xbox Live Gold requirement on having a paid subscription to access ANY online functions. I do not believe it's referencing MS's unwillingness to have games cross-platform.

I agree, the GOLD requirement sucks, but it makes sense. If they make an exception for FFXIV, what's to stop every other developer to question this exception or ask for the exception for their game.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Xiv has no need for a gold sub, because the servers are not hosted by the console companies. Why would SE want to force their players to pay 2 subscriptions? They made that allowance for Xi, why not xiv.

Again, Sony does not require it, and if they are the worst offenders, the surely Ms can do better. In fact no paid or free mmo on psn requires ps+


And I don't know how you missed the first half saying they wouldn't split the player base among separate servers.

[Moonlite]

Tera has some pretty interesting console stuff going on right now. Some videos of the game is running pretty poorly and some times it looks really solid. But they have split servers at this point.

[Delmontyb]

Again, that article seems to be specifically referencing the Xbox Live Gold requirement on having a paid subscription to access ANY online functions. I do not believe it's referencing MS's unwillingness to have games cross-platform.

I agree, the GOLD requirement sucks, but it makes sense. If they make an exception for FFXIV, what's to stop every other developer to question this exception or ask for the exception for their game.

Before ESO was released it was announced that you wouldn't need Gold to play online. Can't find that article anymore
But even if that was still a roadblock, gold is a lot different from how it was on 360... if one profile is gold, anyone who plays on the Xbox is gold. So for example. my whole family is gold, but we only pay for my one profile.

I still feel it shouldn't require gold what so ever, but I don't think that's the issue anymore. Would love this game to come to xbox.

[KisaiTenshi]

Again, that article seems to be specifically referencing the Xbox Live Gold requirement on having a paid subscription to access ANY online functions. I do not believe it's referencing MS's unwillingness to have games cross-platform.

I agree, the GOLD requirement sucks, but it makes sense. If they make an exception for FFXIV, what's to stop every other developer to question this exception or ask for the exception for their game.

Microsoft used to require a GOLD requirement to watch Netflix. Let's just say that Microsoft has not learned it's lesson here about how the Xbox Live Gold requirements actually push casual people away from the platform, and all MMO's. Final Fantasy XI/XIV are not the first games to look into it, and to give one example, Mabinogi was "already done" for the 360 way back in 2007 or 2008, and then it was not shipped because of these requirements. Once the hard drive died on my Xbox 360S and I couldn't find another one, I've shunned the Xbox platform. It's just not worth buying Microsoft hardware, they consistently do things that saddle the user with extra costs for no benefit other than milking the user for extra money on accessories (hello echos of SEGA.)

[Pyroxene]

Hey guys!

I read in this interview that Yoshi-P says that discussions with nintendo and microsoft about ffxiv on xbox and switch are pretty positive. Check it out here:

http://www.gamerevolution.com/news/3...-producer-says

This is the same guy that thought Eureka was a good idea, just thought I'd point that out

[alimdia]

This is the same guy that thought Eureka was a good idea, just thought I'd point that out

We really don't need to spread the topic of Eureka in every unrelated thread, there are more than enough relevant threads up already.

Again, that article seems to be specifically referencing the Xbox Live Gold requirement on having a paid subscription to access ANY online functions. I do not believe it's referencing MS's unwillingness to have games cross-platform.

I agree, the GOLD requirement sucks, but it makes sense. If they make an exception for FFXIV, what's to stop every other developer to question this exception or ask for the exception for their game.

No it makes no sense, MS needs to stop being greedy and stop charging a monthly subscription just to be allowed to use 3rd party servers.

[Paladinleeds]

I agree, the GOLD requirement sucks, but it makes sense. If they make an exception for FFXIV, what's to stop every other developer to question this exception or ask for the exception for their game.

Sony doesn't require PSN+ for FFXIV and have set clear boundaries about it. "Are your game servers hosted on PSN? No? Ok, we'll waive PSN+ for you." - that's clear boundaries so devs don't question it. What's to stop Microsoft doing the same thing? Because in essence that's all that's needed. Square Enix won't host the FFXIV servers on Xbox Live servers. So why does it need Xbox Live? And Microsoft can pull a PR stunt here to stop the questioning and say "Due to Sony's success, we have decided to adopt their system for Xbox Live Gold. If you only use Xbox Live for the oauth flow, we will waive the Xbox Live Gold requirement". There we go, it doesn't look like a dev is responsible, and other devs won't question it as much.