Quote Originally Posted by akaneakki View Post
It's really hard to pull of premades in this one btw. Shatters you can easily but you are 4 per party here not 8. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Yeah, pre-mades are more or less impossible since you have to queue as light parties and I think the language select is off for PvP (correct me if I'm wrong). So it is a lot harder for pre-mades to have a lot of influence in a match.

That being said, having a good party holding mid the entire time denies the other team a ton of CE, and gives your team a ton, so one party can be extremely effective in that regard. But, that's also assuming the other team doesn't have a group that can at least hold mid somewhat well (heck, one game I and one person in my party held mid for a good minute or two against 6-10 enemies, harassing them to keep the generator from them until we got killed finally. That's massive in terms of CE produced/denied, and definitely helped us come back to win the match)