Dragoon Suggestion

[P_Subfocus]

So in the LIVE Letter from the Producer videos, Yoshi-P touched on Dragoons and their wyvern pets, about how they were inseparable. I completely agree with this. He then asked a question. Would you want your character's stats weakened to balance the pet/character combo? To this I would suggest...

In my opinion, the only reason I like a wyvern by my side is because it looks extremely cool. I wouldn't play a Dragoon if my stats were seriously lower because I had a pet. So because of this, I came up with a small solution. How about having the Wyvern always stay by the Dragoon's side, but have no health and it being simply for looks. Now, it goes without saying that the Dragoon will have some very specific skills. What you can do is that when the Dragoon uses these skills, the Wyvern does something. For instance, when the Dragoon does something along the lines of a penta-stab, you can have the wyvern assist in the attack (Cool animation here). The stats don't have to be split because the damage is not being done by the wyvern, it's simply the skill itself doing the damage. The wyvern itself is simply there for the looks and animation.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, don't think about the Dragoon as "Pet + Character" but rather the wyvern being the extension of a Dragoon, like the Dragoon and the wyvern are one character. Therefore, it makes since if the wyvern has no health because the Dragoon and wyvern share a mystical bond of sorts. If the Dragoon dies, the wyvern also dies.

TLDR: Dragoon can still have a wyvern without split stats. Wyvern is simply for vanity purposes.

I'd love some feedback from the community on this. I understand if many of you disagree, this is simply an opinion from one user. So don't take it to heart and keep it to a low flaming level please.


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[Ruri]

If what your saying is give us a Wyvern but don't have it attack separately but have some of our abilities use it, then it might work.

Then again it would look lame having a Wyvern fly by you but not doing anything until you activate it.

[P_Subfocus]

But it wouldn't be idle at all. Like I said, keep in mind that the Dragoon and wyvern are one and the same. If the Dragoon does a normal attack, the wyvern should assist. So every action the Dragoon does, the wyvern must also do something.

[Dawiichan]

Maybe they can have a skill named something like Wyvern Aid or something. A buff with a moderately long cd (5 minutes maybe) that has your pet assist you with the skill. Like Fire Breath might become a dual Fire Breath with the help of your wyvern or when you jump he can fly you up or push you down as you fall. Just a few ideas.

[P_Subfocus]

Maybe they can have a skill named something like Wyvern Aid or something. A buff with a moderately long cd (5 minutes maybe) that has your pet assist you with the skill. Like Fire Breath might become a dual Fire Breath with the help of your wyvern or when you jump he can fly you up or push you down as you fall. Just a few ideas.

Yes, but see the point is that the Dragoon which we're all familiar with always had a wyvern out. Which is why I suggest the idea of making the wyvern not a pet, but a part of the Dragoon class itself. Therefore, the Dragoon and wyvern stay inseparable.

[Dawiichan]

Yes, but see the point is that the Dragoon which we're all familiar with always had a wyvern out. Which is why I suggest the idea of making the wyvern not a pet, but a part of the Dragoon class itself. Therefore, the Dragoon and wyvern stay inseparable.

But that's not making it a pet, that's making it more as an add-on. He can stay with you, but you can use a buff that makes it so that he can also be part of your skills.

[P_Subfocus]

But that's not making it a pet, that's making it more as an add-on. He can stay with you, but you can use a buff that makes it so that he can also be part of your skills.

The wyvern isn't a pet though, it's what makes a Dragoon a Dragoon. Like I said, don't think about the Dragoon and his wyvern as "Pet + Character" but rather think of the two of them as 1 character.

In fact, what you're suggesting is exactly what Yoshi-P was talking about. They'd have to balance out the stats because having a pet just makes you that much stronger.

[Dawiichan]

The wyvern isn't a pet though, it's what makes a Dragoon a Dragoon. Like I said, don't think about the Dragoon and his wyvern as "Pet + Character" but rather think of the two of them as 1 character.

In fact, what you're suggesting is exactly what Yoshi-P was talking about. They'd have to balance out the stats because having a pet just makes you that much stronger.

I'd like you to explain to me how that sounds like Pet+Character at all... Am I missing something? Having a Wyvern following you and being able to enhance one of your skills as a buff makes him a pet? You could just as easily make a buff called something like "Dragoon's Spirit" do the same thing and it wouldn't be considered a pet...

Edit: At least in my perspective, what Yoshi-P was against was having a Wyvern fight with you like a beast master. I'm saying that you could create a buff for Dragoon that makes it so that your Wyvern assists you in your next skill. An example being something like instead of the Dragoon breathing fire, the Wyvern and the Dragoon both breath fire to create a stronger fire. After that the Wyvern just flies behind you until you use the buff again.

[Koga_Edge]

Dragoons didn't have wyvern "pets" until 11(Most had no relation to wyverns at all, with the exception of the Highwind-Tycoon Family in 5, and Ricard in 2), and it took 11's team quite a while to balance it correctly! Remember when Call Wyvern was the 2 hour ability? and a beastmaster's jug pet could beat one?
Yea I love Dragoon, and the Wyvern added a nice story line to Dragoon AF, but what made a Dragoon a Dragoon was their combat style and armor. If the Dragoon in XIV is too obscure from their Lancer counterparts then maybe adding of the wyvern should be discussed.
Don't get me wrong I loved the Combination of Dragoon and Wyvern in XI, but at the same time I couldn't help but feel they only added it to make the class stand out from the other DD classes.

[P_Subfocus]

Dragoons didn't have wyvern "pets" until 11(Most had no relation to wyverns at all, with the exception of the Highwind-Tycoon Family in 5, and Ricard in 2), and it took 11's team quite a while to balance it correctly! Remember when Call Wyvern was the 2 hour ability? and a beastmaster's jug pet could beat one?
Yea I love Dragoon, and the Wyvern added a nice story line to Dragoon AF, but what made a Dragoon a Dragoon was their combat style and armor. If the Dragoon in XIV is too obscure from their Lancer counterparts then maybe adding of the wyvern should be discussed.
Don't get me wrong I loved the Combination of Dragoon and Wyvern in XI, but at the same time I couldn't help but feel they only added it to make the class stand out from the other DD classes.

It would be nice if we could take a poll on whether we want Dragoons to include wyverns or not.