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    BorisDaBlade's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by RylaBee View Post
    I was thinking specificaly multi-pack pull.
    If you in dungeon gather 3 packs runnig throught them - and wanto to keep all even against some dps engaging on-the-way and healer HoTs ticking, you can only F-F-F-F, there is no other meaningful way.
    I deal with hots and overzealous dps as such: click off regens before engaging next pack. Flash through pack. Watch enemy list for dropping hp, rotate camera and shield lob said enemy losing the most hp. Continue with pack pulling. Pretty simple stuff.

    If you can’t hold aggro with that, get better gear and try again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BorisDaBlade View Post
    I deal with hots and overzealous dps as such: click off regens before engaging next pack. Flash through pack. Watch enemy list for dropping hp, rotate camera and shield lob said enemy losing the most hp. Continue with pack pulling. Pretty simple stuff.

    If you can’t hold aggro with that, get better gear and try again.
    You misunderstand me completely Boris, I'm not complaining that I cant hold aggro. I just wish I could do AoE aggro in such situation other way than spamming flash, which does just fell wrong to me
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    Thela Ivora
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    Quote Originally Posted by RylaBee View Post
    You misunderstand me completely Boris, I'm not complaining that I cant hold aggro. I just wish I could do AoE aggro in such situation other way than spamming flash, which does just fell wrong to me
    But you already can? Spamming flash is not a thing that is required at all, generally i will use flash once, then TE 2-3 times then flash ONCE again etc. spamming it is really not how its supposed to be used. Also because you will entirely negate the blind debuff it provides if you do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thela View Post
    But you already can? Spamming flash is not a thing that is required at all, generally i will use flash once, then TE 2-3 times then flash ONCE again etc. spamming it is really not how its supposed to be used. Also because you will entirely negate the blind debuff it provides if you do that.
    Precisely. I don't PLD too often (esp dungeons when I mostly go dps to take a break from tanking), but yea you only need a few flashes total per pull. Spread them out between TE's and ride the blind debuff as long as you can. Beyond those 2-3 spread out flashes you shouldn't need anymore.
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    Zexy Diamond
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    PLD rotation

    hi, I have been leveling up my pld and is currently level 65. During "Shisui of the Violet Tides" I received a complain from a group member stating that I wasn't holding agro I even got insulted but I didn't respond. I use ultimatum, flash, and provoke to start a pull then spam savage, fast, riot, and rage of halone to hold. What am I doing wrong? your advice is needed, Zexy
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    Last edited by DiamondOrion; 12-17-2017 at 08:56 AM.

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    Karuru Karu
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiamondOrion View Post
    hi, I have been leveling up my pld and is currently level 65. During "Shisui of the Violet Tides" I received a complain from a group member stating that I wasn't holding agro I even got insulted but I didn't respond. I use ultimatum, flash, and provoke to start a pull then spam savage, fast, riot, and rage of halone to hold. What am I doing wrong? your advice is needed, Zexy
    ultimatum and provoke don't generate enmity. they give you the same enmity the party member with the highest enmity has +1, wich means they do basically nothing when you already have enmity or when you try to pull with these skills - they give you face-aggro, nothing more.

    use more flash, like 2-3 times and circle of scorn. don't use ultimatum and provoke (except you already have lost enmity).


    (btw you are using AGAIN the wrong thread / chat channel)
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    Last edited by Tint; 12-17-2017 at 09:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    ultimatum and provoke don't generate enmity. they give you the same enmity the party member with the highest enmity has +1, wich means they do basically nothing when you already have enmity or when you try to pull with these skills - they give you face-aggro, nothing more.

    use more flash, like 2-3 times and circle of scorn. don't use ultimatum and provoke (except you already have lost enmity).


    (btw you are using AGAIN the wrong thread / chat channel)
    Shield Lob is also great for corralling stray Mobs. One hit generally gets them back on track.
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    Aquis Onionslicer
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiamondOrion View Post
    hi, I have been leveling up my pld and is currently level 65. During "Shisui of the Violet Tides" I received a complain from a group member stating that I wasn't holding agro I even got insulted but I didn't respond. I use ultimatum, flash, and provoke to start a pull then spam savage, fast, riot, and rage of halone to hold. What am I doing wrong? your advice is needed, Zexy
    You just need to spam flash.......
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    And ffs, pop a cd while gathering mobs. It will keep the healer from having to use hots in the first place during large pulls.
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    What Whiskeybravo and Thela said. I typically can Flash, CoS and go straight into Eclipse spam with FoF up.
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