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  1. #131
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    InkstainedGwyn's Avatar
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    Souji Hanamura
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    Exodus
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    If it wasn't for the fact that it would cause harm to a lot of other players, I'd say sure. Open the floodgates, and if nobody crashes, yay! You can finally stop spamming the forums. You're happy, we're happy. And if everybody crashes, well, actions have consequences. Then they can split the server, institute standard player-number caps that transfers cannot get around, and be done with it.

    On an unrelated note, I wonder if there's a correlation between the attitude people use while posting on the forums, and the fact that they can't find anybody to play/RP with?
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  2. #132
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    Bourne_Endeavor's Avatar
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Cactuar
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Is it just me or does the OP sound like someone gave Trump a thesaurus?
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  3. #133
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    Xerek's Avatar
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    Alexandr Nocturne
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    Balmung
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    I am a RPer on Balmung, and have been there since Besaid was folded into it. So the OP cannot claim I know nothing of the RP community. Having established that...

    The OP's assertion is ridiculous. Anyone supporting SE is foolish for doing so blindly...yet by not providing any proof, the OP is asking for that same blind loyalty to his ideal. So, blind loyalty is apparently only foolish when it's given to SE, but makes perfect sense when given to the OP.

    Sorry, if it comes down to trusting SE, who alone have access to server data and have already shown they are monitoring the situation and recently unlocked Gilgamesh or trusting someone that is screaming Balmung needs to be unlocked without providing any evidence at all that the server can support it and attacks anyone with the hubris to disagree...SE gets the benefit of the doubt. Now if actual evidence is presented, I'm open to reconsideration.
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  4. #134
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    Nalfein's Avatar
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    Warit Jutamachat
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    Masamune
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    I rolled my eyes so hard at OP's pathetic attempt to write the perfect essay in order to counter every possible replies on the forum.
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  5. #135
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    Lazaruz's Avatar
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    Sayo Nagae
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    Odin
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Oaken View Post
    Unfortunately, I lack the time to....
    I'm gonna stop you there.

    Either counter what people bring up to argue against you, or concede to the fact that maybe, you're wrong.
    Although then again, if you didnt already know it, you'd have countered the fact that people actually have picked appart your arguments (me especially)


    Trying to take the high ground, while sticking your fingers in your ear and yelling "lalalala I cant hear you!" while spitting out big words as if you were recently gifted a thesaurus wont make you right. It wont even make you smart. It just makes you look like an ass
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    Last edited by Lazaruz; 11-24-2017 at 03:20 AM.

  6. #136
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    Hyrist's Avatar
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    Lin Celistine
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    Goblin
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Just a couple questions Oaken, if you have the time.

    First off, on what grounds did you assume the right to speak for the Balmung's RP communities? (Yes, plural, communities. Balmung's RP groups split up into subsections like most other RP locale.)

    You take on this argumentative stance, attempting to hold an air of authority, but all of your so called facts are conjecture - making claims that a closed off community cannot remain healthy long term. Where's your cited examples of this? Why haven't you investigated counter examples and what made them successful?

    In the end you're impressing no one, and are just making yourself full of bluster. I'm sure you think you're doing your best to represent your argument - but you are undermining yourself - and embarrassing the surrounding community which brings me to the next pointed question.

    Did you truly think for more than yourself when making this thread. Are you aware of who you happen to be representing, intentionally or otherwise?

    Sorry but IMO, you're making Ardent Lotus look bad within the RP community, which is sad because Shoshopu works so hard to host SpellGuard and to keep it as an attractive event to go to.

    You're making the RP community look terrible, because most of the community doesn't bother taking up the official forums commonly and do their best to make due with their lot. I know drama is part of what we do and enjoy - but we don't need your help looking bad to non-rpers. We got plenty of other interesting things to keep people down-talking about us.

    Have you considered the possibility of there being better, more fruitful efforts to invest your time?

    Instead of raising this issue repetitively, you could be making attempts to rally more active RPers, have friends in Balmung who don't RP, consider trying it. You could assist with networking and organizing events and headhunting players who have "Walk ups welcome." on their status and connecting them with other people.

    You could have taken the energy you've spent to argue with other people, and drafted a plotline for friends - private or public, that would have gotten people re-energized.

    I don't believe FFXIV's RP Community currently has a population problem. We've got plenty of RPers that have sequestered themselves, paused role-playing or simply are wandering looking for a place or activities to enjoy themselves in.

    You obviously have a lot of energy, so, why don't you apply it somewhere it's actually going to be useful. Your call for Balmung to be unlocked isn't unique nor will resonate its request any louder than it has already rung. But in the meanwhile, neglecting to properly assist and maintain the existing community by blaming outside sources will assure that the communities stagnate and fall apart before the Server opens again.


    Which leads me to my last question.

    Have you considered the notion that it may ultimately be the Balmung Rp Community's Responsibility for its own health?

    We can blame outside sources or we can own our situation and make the best of it. Its your decision.

    Meanwhile I'm helping work getting my circle of friend active again - and with that, this is about as much effort I'm going to spare for this conversation. Be patient. Balmung will unlock when it's ready. We have to do our part in the meanwhile.
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  7. #137
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    Shouko's Avatar
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    Aliiza Duskryn
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    Jenova
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    Weaver Lv 52
    "Reasonable people who can think for themselves are not content to believe a proposition without evidence. At the end of the day, there is no evidence of that Balmung's current population levels are detrimental or excessive. There are no queues or technical issues. The lock is causing stagnation and fragmenting FFXIV's RP community into increasingly isolated communities that will accelerate stagnation. Pointing to a decision made six months ago by your benevolent technocrat under a completely different set of circumstances and declaring your blind loyalty to that technocrat proves nothing other than your own ignorance. "

    Correct there isn't any evidence and you haven't provided any either, even though you claim to have said evidence. Correct me if i'm wrong but in order to prove something is wrong it's not the job of the person being accused of being wrong to prove that you're correct but it's your job to prove they're wrong. Cite your sources, provide your evidence or shut up.
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  8. #138
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    MichiKyou's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Mevra Noor
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    Balmung
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    Pugilist Lv 81
    Quote Originally Posted by SilverObi View Post
    We have yet to run into each other ingame if my memory is right, that's a "new" person right there for purposes of RP or even linkshell recruitment. I can see FCs having a hard time but there is certainly no shortage of fresh faces if you go out and say hi to folks. Strangers are just friends you haven't met
    Quote Originally Posted by NanaWiloh View Post
    No you can't die Michikyou!! :O I will cross my fingers that things improve for you though.


    Ah, I forgot to mention - its mostly due to the fact I also don't live in America. So when i'm on, the population is pretty low. My usual log in time is 12 am CST, but it would be worse on an EU server as I live in a GMT+12 area.
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    Square, can we have an OCE fanfest now?

  9. #139
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    Titor's Avatar
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    Garlemald
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    Titor Jaraba
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    Balmung
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    Alchemist Lv 100
    I don't even care about the rp here, the server itself is just starting to stagnate. I run a non rp FC and its hard to get new members. Most fc-less people right now are those that like to play solo and won't join a FC, or people that have been removed from their prior FC for undesirable reasons.

    We need some fresh blood. Not just for RP, but for low level zones, open world fates like foxy lady and ixion, novice network, social scene health, and just in general.
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  10. #140
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    SilverObi's Avatar
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    Kissa Kotele
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Hyrist View Post
    Fantastic words
    THANK YOU Hyrist. All this fuss is really just serving to give other people clubs to beat Balmung over the head with for no good reason.
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