Petition to Lift Balmung Server Lock / Impact of Server Lock on FFXIV RP Community

[NanaWiloh]

Unfortunately, I lack the time to solo a dozen or so uniformed, disinterested internet forum heros who regurgitate tautological arguments and show blind, lemming-like deference to SE's undisclosed business decisions, and who are so unfamiliar with the mechanics and structure of the RP community that they can't begin to even understand how a server lock impacts the RP community.

Reasonable people who can think for themselves are not content to believe a proposition without evidence. At the end of the day, there is no evidence of that Balmung's current population levels are detrimental or excessive. There are no queues or technical issues. The lock is causing stagnation and fragmenting FFXIV's RP community into increasingly isolated communities that will accelerate stagnation. Pointing to a decision made six months ago by your benevolent technocrat under a completely different set of circumstances and declaring your blind loyalty to that technocrat proves nothing other than your own ignorance.

These arguments have been made and repeated several times, and there are simply better things to do than address the same flawed thinking.

You viewing things from a client side perspective which is not the same or equalivent too a server side perspective that alone invalidates your claims that everything is fine. Believing nothing is wrong server side cause you see nothing wrong client side is a fallacy and we do not dabble in fallacies. Problems and the possiblity of problems can exist server side without being present or apparent client side, unless you have server side proof of no issues; Which you don't I would suggest you stop and rethink your approach. You accuse people of lacking evidence and you present only client evidence and have failed to produce server side evidence which is needed to truly support your claim.

You are also not impressing anyone with your big words and mind on cloud 9 echo chamber responses. Having a discussion with someone like you is equal to talking to a brick wall in a opera house. I would also recommend that you not tell SE what is and is not wrong with the server itself.

[Nora_of_Mira]

I dont think Square cares about the RP community. I think all of Square's decisions regarding servers are made based on the entire playerbase, as they probably should be. Also, the lack of evidence you quote is just...insane?

[NanaWiloh]

Probably when i'm dead. ;-; I think my issue is, its very hard to recruit or meet new people when there are no new people on the server. It also does stagnate roleplay.

No you can't die Michikyou!! :O I will cross my fingers that things improve for you though.

[Krotoan]

Unfortunately, I lack the time to solo a dozen or so uniformed, disinterested internet forum heros who regurgitate tautological arguments and show blind, lemming-like deference to SE's undisclosed business decisions, and who are so unfamiliar with the mechanics and structure of the RP community that they can't begin to even understand how a server lock impacts the RP community.

... you speak of uniforms again.. when do I get mine?


proofreading nitpicks aside, you have not answered my two simple questions:

You believe the server can handle all RP players on it at once?

You believe SE has left Balmung closed simply because they forgot to unlock it or because of misguided attempts to spread out players?




You and every single person you role play with are not enough to warrant consideration in an equation that pits you against the populations of every other server on the data center.
We oppose because you are suggesting actions that will possibly destabilize and affect our own worlds.
We mock because you are arguing like someone with fingers in their ears singing "la la la" whenever someone says something you do not want to hear.
I'll respond if you answer my questions with anything other than your favorite 7 dollar words strung together that only translate to :"I have no actual arguments for this".
Otherwise, I'm going to assume you are yet another spoiled and short sighted troll who cannot see beyond their own inconvenience, and laugh and point with all the others.

[DevilsDontFly]

When even people from your own server come here to this thread and tell you it's a bad idea to open Balmung...

I understand that your concerned about the RP community, and honestly I can't say anything about it since I am not a roleplayer. However the reason to why Balmung is locked goes beyond RP needs, as the majority of the players on the server doesn't even roleplay to begin with. I have alts on Balmung, and from my perspective opening an already overcrowded server to appeal to a minor percentage of it's population, which in turn will result to even more people overloading the server's capacity doesn't sound like the best approach at the moment.

Like many people said, even on the Gilgamesh thread prior to this week's patch: The server will open when it's time for it to open. If SE thinks it's not time for it to open just now, making a petition to try opening the gates ahead of time will only make the issue worse. The point is to open Balmung for it to stay open for months, and not to create a small room of weeks (maybe even days, honestly) for it to be flooded with transfers just to be locked right afterwards.

Thanks to Balmung and Gilgamesh being locked, many servers now have a healthy and wealthy population, and no longer are seen as dead or unappealing to people.

[SilverObi]

Probably when i'm dead. ;-; I think my issue is, its very hard to recruit or meet new people when there are no new people on the server. It also does stagnate roleplay.

We have yet to run into each other ingame if my memory is right, that's a "new" person right there for purposes of RP or even linkshell recruitment. I can see FCs having a hard time but there is certainly no shortage of fresh faces if you go out and say hi to folks. Strangers are just friends you haven't met

[SenorPatty]

These arguments have been made and repeated several times, and there are simply better things to do than address the same flawed thinking.

"SE is lying about Balmung is overpopulated because I can login without a queue. I'm right because no one else has proof."

Hmm...

[Skivvy]

You are getting more RP in an EU server because you are from EU (like myself), which doesn't mean that RP doesn't need a central hub. In fact, Omega has been chosen as the EU central hub, and I suspect that's why you might find enough RP there.

In any case, to everyone else, why is it that people who want Balmung open are causing you such distress? There's a lot of "oh gods not again" drama, simply because this is a matter that doesn't affect you at all, and thus you don't want to hear about it? But the people who are affected have all the right to tend to their own needs and to ask for things that will suit them, whether or not these things are convenient for you (or even your business to start with).

For the record, I'm from Balmung, but with me being from the EU and Balmung's constant restrictions, I don't RP with the community and I eventually lost every will to find a suitable FC or even socialize in general. This means that right now I don't really care if Balmung is open or closed, as it doesn't affect me anymore. I'm not defending OP because it suits me, but because OP has this problem which is ruining their gaming experience, and they have all the right to complain about it for as long as this problem continues. If it doesn't even affect you, then you have no business telling OP to not talk about their problem. Sorry about my bad English; just my two cents.

I don't think the issue in this thread is the idea of opening Balmung back up again, but the OP and his approach to the topic. I imagine most people are OK with the idea of Balmung being opened up, but when SE feels the server is at a stable level.

OP came charging in here, claiming to know for a fact that SE is wrong about the server not being ready, and has insulted anyone who doesn't agree. If you are trying to garner support for a particular concern, tossing out insults left and right, and refusing to converse in a normal manner is just going to push people away, and quite possibly make them work against your cause just to spite you.

I personally would like to see Balmung opened back up, but I also understand that with MMOs, sometimes a server lock has to happen. This is not the first time I've been part of a lock in a game. SE will open up the server when they feel it is ready to be opened. Somehow this opinion of mine got me titled a "mindless child who need to be told what to think by a benevolent authority figure" and other interesting things.

OP is arguing for a server unlocked based on the idea that he 100% knows better than SE, and that just isn't true. Why would a company knowingly lock-down a server, which is only bound to annoy and frustrate people, and quite possibly push some away from the game if it was not necessary?

Also, despite what OP claims - Queues do still happen. They're not huge, but they're there.

[MistakeNot]

You believe the server can handle all RP players on it at once?

I am not the OP, but:

All the RP players?
Sure, it can handle those easily.

All the RP players, plus a bunch of non-RPers who still prefer to play on an RP server because of the atmosphere, plus a number of players who want to play on whatever server is the biggest, plus a large number of random players - new and old, plus a few gold sellers, plus a few anti-RP trolls?
That could get problematic....

[Krotoan]

I am not the OP, but:

All the RP players?
Sure, it can handle those easily.

All the RP players, plus a bunch of non-RPers who still prefer to play on an RP server because of the atmosphere, plus a number of players who want to play on whatever server is the biggest, plus a large number of random players - new and old, plus a few gold sellers, plus a few anti-RP trolls?
That could get problematic....

Every single RP-er from every single server? Because the OPs original statement implies this is the goal.
doubtful.