Petition to Lift Balmung Server Lock / Impact of Server Lock on FFXIV RP Community

[Oaken]

Neither is baseless assumptions that unlocking the server wouldn't cause any issues. You yourself are also doing circular arguments and baseless reasoning to your own points. Lets see your evidence, since its so strong, that nothing bad would happen. Have you worked on SE's servers or do you know how they are coded? Anything less is not facts, but assumptions and opinions.

Yeah, it's called logging onto the stable server and encountering no issues. Give it a shot sometime.

But, goodness, I forgot that we - lowly consumers - could never, possibly question SE, and that SE has never, ever made any sort of organizational mistakes or errors in the development of this second reiteration of an MMORPG.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Yeah, it's called logging onto the stable server and encountering no issues. Give it a shot sometime.

But, goodness, I forgot that we - lowly consumers - could never, possibly question SE, and that SE has never, ever made any sort of organizational mistakes or errors in the development of this second reiteration of an MMORPG.

Did you not play, at ALL during 4.0's launch? 4k in queue, 2-3 hours to get onto the server? Man, what selective memory we have.

I'm pretty sure I have a better idea of how stable the server was, considering that I was on it 7 years.

[Oaken]

Did you not play, at ALL during 4.0's launch? 4k in queue, 2-3 hours to get onto the server? Man, what selective memory we have.

Implementing an auto-AFK kick fixed the queues within days. Server locks were ineffective. Server creation policy should not live in the past. There is no evidence of server instability issues at the present time, and we're years away from another expansion that could potentially cause similar issues (which will likely be fixed next time around by implementing an auto-AFK kick and other less restrict measures).

[Skivvy]

We have absolutely no way to see what is going on behind the scenes with the servers. SE has all the information, we do not, and they will handle the servers as they see fit. That is the bottom line. All your whinging, especially in this matter, will only serve to push people away who may have actually cared what happens to Balmung.

[Oaken]

SE has all the information, we do not, and tey will handle the servers as they see fit. That is the bottom line. All your whinging, especially in this matter, will only serve to push people away who may have actually cared what happens to Balmung.

Here, let me save you a little time and cut and paste fallacious argument 1:

This argument is rooted in speculation, circular logic, and is not an argument in the first place. The argument amounts to little more than the following tautological nonsense: "the server is locked because SE says its locked and SE is right because it says its right." This is not valid reasoning or the basis of any respectable opinion. The entire point of this thread (and others like it) is to apprise the development team of the need to unlock the server.

[MoroMurasaki]

Here, let me save you a little time and cut and paste fallacious argument 1:

This argument is rooted in speculation, circular logic, and is not an argument in the first place. The argument amounts to little more than the following tautological nonsense: "the server is locked because SE says its locked and SE is right because it says its right." This is not valid reasoning or the basis of any respectable opinion. The entire point of this thread (and others like it) is to apprise the development team of the need to unlock the server.

SE owns Balmung. SE owns your character. SE can do whatever it likes with either of those things.

Don't you think with all the whining about unlocking Balmung if it was a viable option they would have done it by now? They've proven with Gilga that when population reduction happens they're content to open things back up.

Your population has not stabilized. I don't understand what is confusing you here.

[SenorPatty]

Here, let me save you a little time and cut and paste fallacious argument 1:

This argument is rooted in speculation, circular logic, and is not an argument in the first place. The argument amounts to little more than the following tautological nonsense: "the server is locked because SE says its locked and SE is right because it says its right." This is not valid reasoning or the basis of any respectable opinion. The entire point of this thread (and others like it) is to apprise the development team of the need to unlock the server.

BRUH

Do you even

Are you even trying?

Do you actually comprehend the words you are using?

The argument that we don't know how SE handles its server is speculation? You do understand that you literally just said that somehow, the player base knows how SE handles its servers despite how there's zero way to prove that.

Stop smoking the bad stuff and put down the thesaurus. Please.

LOL

[FinaSel]

Is this a real 9-page argument?

Or is this like...roleplay?

[SenorPatty]

Is this a real 9-page argument?

Or is this like...roleplay?

Its not even an argument.

The entire basis of the OP's "argument" is that SE saying Balmung is overpopulated is not a good reason to lock it because there's no evidence to prove that what SE is saying is true. When we ask him "as opposed to...?", he just keeps repeating that we're the ones with fallacious arguments and we should be the ones to provide evidence. As if SE has some kind conspiracy strictly targeted at Balmung and its trying to lie its way out of not locking it.

I want to say this has been the best kind of tinfoil babble about secret corporate hush-hush fooling the masses into believing anything they want but I've seen flat earth people do a better job than this.

[Alien_Gamer]

Is this a real 9-page argument?

Or is this like...roleplay?

I thought it was entertainment, like one of those movies on Mystery Science Theater 3000?