Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
This isn't really the issue in threads like this. The worry is that the hardcore players want all content to be savageified, in order to make players better. What I mean by this is that they want casual content to become harder or more like savage content, in order to push all players to get better and possibly make raiding or ex trials easier. Like the average bad player isn't lazy! They are doing what they can, but they aren't as good as placement, positioning, optimization, and what have you as another player.

Like you can suffer serious dps loss just by being late at refreshing a debuff or using a cooldown. It's not a matter of afking, a lot of problems with play more or less involve not being optimal with many little things.
I won't even mince words. This is straight up nonsense. Hardcore players aren't demanding everything become Savage. In fact, many enjoy a relaxed pace. Our complaint is most content below Savage isn't easy, it's braindead. I just queued into Solm Al Hard last night and literally did not press a single heal; not even regen. The mobs simply don't scratch a tank pulling one pack at a time. One could argue this is just old content but the same applies to current Expert dungeons. I have pulled trash on Samurai and been absolutely fine. It speaks volumes when a RDM casting the occasional Vercure is more valuable than a WHM that only heals. Shinryu normal is an excellent example of a decent fight relative to its ilvl, though I'd like to see a little harder.

And why aren't they as good? What stops someone from looking up a guide or asking how to better prefer on their chosen job? It's posts like this that spread accusations of laziness. Do you think I started off with 80-90% in Savage? No. I learned how to better play as time went on. I wouldn't even necessarily expect that level of commitment in DF, but I don't think it's asking much we have less faceroll easy dungeons or normal mode raids. They should be made easy by higher gear and better performance, not something I queue into on the day of release without knowing a thing and pull the run anyway.