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    Rita1989's Avatar
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    Nenemi Nemi
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    Balmung
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    Lancer Lv 40
    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvina View Post
    Only off tank builds are the ones with the most dps.
    Unless your running unending coil all tanks should be gearing/melding to maximize dps nothing else hits hard enough to warrant any differently.
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    Sylvina Eon
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    Exodus
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rita1989 View Post
    Unless your running unending coil all tanks should be gearing/melding to maximize dps nothing else hits hard enough to warrant any differently.
    The time I was oneshotted through my cooldowns in O1s by twinbolt becuase I wasn't in tank stance when it came up says otherwise. Unless you already have an item level higher than whats required for the content, stuff hits plenty hard.
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    Hyomin Park
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    Cactuar
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvina View Post
    The time I was oneshotted through my cooldowns in O1s by twinbolt becuase I wasn't in tank stance when it came up says otherwise. Unless you already have an item level higher than whats required for the content, stuff hits plenty hard.
    If you died during Twin Bolt, where was the other tank? Because it sounds like they probably didn’t share the damage with you, or you didn’t mitigate properly like you said (be it from the CD just not going off in time, or you failing to activate it). Or there could have been a healing issue, because, if I remember correctly, Alte Rolte also does a Wyvern Tail auto around that time as well. Twin Bolt is easily survivable with mitigation; you don’t need tank stance for it. And unless you went into V1S in 290 gear, gear isn’t the issue. It’s clearable easily in Verity and crafted gear.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycow8me View Post
    Radical thought: Make Tank stance and DPS stance so vastly inferior to each other that a main tank and off tank have to choose them. Current DPS spread between tank stance and non tank stance is fine but DPS stance needs a +25% vulnerability up or so to keep main tanks from using it.
    Tanks already technically take more damage outside of tank stance, with the exception of WAR since Defiance doesn’t offer 20% mitigation like Grit/Shield Oath. Also, this wouldn’t fix the issue of tanks not using tank stance—they would still continue to plow through in DPS stance, and instead force a healer to DPS less to heal them through the +25% vulnerability they now have.

    I can completely agree with trying to make it so that using tank stance is beneficial, and increasing the amount of outgoing damage so that healers can also weave in more heals with DPS (because, as it stands now, outside of certain mechanics like Almagest or Neverwhere in V4S, there isn’t massive amounts of outgoing damage that require a lot of healing uptime), but trying to force it with arbitrary things like vulnerability ups outside of it isn’t the way to go.
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 11-24-2017 at 10:52 PM.
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