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    Galaktica's Avatar
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    SE, just do everyone a favor and get rid of mid. My patience for that one factor is quickly reaching it's end because when people can't capture mid, it turns into this:

    I've had so many matches today where we lose mid and then it turns into a 20 shouting match within our own team. "Omg, I keep running into mid by myself with no backup. Why do you guys suck? We're gonna lose! GG just give up let them win." Meanwhile, no one is collecting fuel tanks or pushing lanes, but mid is entirely the reason we're losing guys! Right?! ugh
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    Lufie Newleaf
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galaktica View Post
    SE, just do everyone a favor and get rid of mid.
    I wonder if it would be an improvement if there was no concept of resources at all. No generator, no gathering CE tanks or farming mammets. Just a cooldown timer on machina spawns instead of using a resource cost. Would make it easier for people to understand and focus on destroying or defending towers/core, though it's not really the game's fault when people focus gathering CE all match... even the last 90 seconds of the match when it would make no difference to gather more CE and they should be fighting/defending core :-(
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    Carlo Vinne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufalus View Post
    I wonder if it would be an improvement if there was no concept of resources at all. No generator, no gathering CE tanks or farming mammets. Just a cooldown timer on machina spawns instead of using a resource cost. Would make it easier for people to understand and focus on destroying or defending towers/core, though it's not really the game's fault when people focus gathering CE all match... even the last 90 seconds of the match when it would make no difference to gather more CE and they should be fighting/defending core :-(
    I dunno, more CE could be the difference between one last oppressor missile drop landing on a core. Can't really say, I never go for the resources, I focus on defending the base or pushing lanes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekimmak View Post
    I dunno, more CE could be the difference between one last oppressor missile drop landing on a core. Can't really say, I never go for the resources, I focus on defending the base or pushing lanes.
    Hmm ok I never considered that an oppressor which is already in position at enemy base might be CE starved and needing a recharge in the final moments of the match to land the winning blow. In that case I see your point that collecting CE in the last minute of the match could still be useful. lol so many variables to consider.
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    Zuzu Belloq
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galaktica View Post
    SE, just do everyone a favor and get rid of mid.
    Just make it a territory dispute instead of a interaction, this way you just need to push people away in order to control it. Making healer stacking less effective while letting the control of the point swing more between teams.
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    Rynka Shadowrane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galaktica View Post
    I've had so many matches today where we lose mid and then it turns into a 20 shouting match within our own team. "Omg, I keep running into mid by myself with no backup. Why do you guys suck? We're gonna lose! GG just give up let them win." Meanwhile, no one is collecting fuel tanks or pushing lanes, but mid is entirely the reason we're losing guys! Right?! ugh
    There's been matches where I've had 6-7 people sitting on the generator, some healers too, while a gaggle of the enmy team is down below collecting CE tanks. The mentality that the gen is something so absolute is rather upsetting. And even in game where we are flooding in CE we have people just popping off mechs every opportunity and then dying somewhere stupid.

    One change I think might best is if instead of a Tower loss, BJs be locked to core damage. Even if just 1% missing, because the times I can count where the moment Justice is available both are out and then systematically dying to stupid.
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