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    Perform: what are your initial thoughts?

    • The lag between clicking/pressing a note and hearing the actual note is messing with my head. Badly. (FYI I play on a VPN with stable 40ms ping.) Client-side notes should play immediately regardless of network conditions.
    • If using mouse click: simply not quick enough. Also error-prone. This is when I wish my monitor was a touch screen.
    • If using keybinds: interferes with normal gameplay keybinds. Can hud layouts also save keybinds so we can get different keybinding configuration on different hud layouts?
    • Actual note names on icons would help a tonne more than color gradients which look nice but are absolutely useless.
    • No macro control: disappointing, but I can understand the reasons. It acts as a barrier of entry to avoid everyone copy-pasting tunes and playing it everywhere.

    After messing around with it for a while, I found that when I try to click different notes in quick succession, I can actually bloody move the hotbars while not in HUD Layout mode. WTF...It's happened three times now, they'll move just a little to go out of alignment and force me to go back to HUD Layout to move them back.

    I'm afraid the conclusion is that they didn't test this extensively with real music. They probably didn't even give it to Soken and ask him to try performing some of the FF music with this. This feels like alpha software. :3
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    Last edited by Zfz; 11-21-2017 at 09:26 PM.
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    It's an entertaining feature. My only problems are I have to turn BGM off to hear it and it doesn't have its own hotbars. Also there are 37 buttons, which is quite an odd number. The way I see it, the best thing to do is slot them temporarily as need be for specific compositions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe777 View Post
    Also there are 37 buttons, which is quite an odd number. The way I see it, the best thing to do is slot them temporarily as need be for specific compositions.
    There's 37 because that gives exactly 3 full octaves including both the top and bottom octave.

    I have a macro that shows/hides some blank hotbars and have them aligned how a piano's keys are. I click on the "Performance" macro to bring up the virtual keyboard, and on any of the other macros to hide it again. It will also automatically hide if I switch jobs. Admittedly, I'm only able do this because I use the 7-10 non-shared hotbars solely as a database of sorts for switching between preset hotbars in a menu-style system to save screen space and my Bard's 7-10 were empty.



    What I do want is a way to /micon the note icons so that I can set it as my "Performance" macro icon.
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    Last edited by Mhaeric; 11-22-2017 at 04:56 PM.

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    not a fan to having to use so many hot bar and no macro useage. I m just sitting there playing "A Place I'll Return to Someday" - FF9 song <_<

    https://www.twitch.tv/videos/203124675
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    Last edited by SnowDreams; 11-21-2017 at 09:32 PM.

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    My UI uses all 10 hotbars for all my jobs, it's impossible for me to use this feature. I understand you don't need ALL of the notes, but even for just messing around I simply have no space to use even a bunch of them.
    This wasn't well thought out and needs a specific UI element just for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imakun View Post
    My UI uses all 10 hotbars for all my jobs, it's impossible for me to use this feature. I understand you don't need ALL of the notes, but even for just messing around I simply have no space to use even a bunch of them.
    This wasn't well thought out and needs a specific UI element just for it.
    There's a post in the User Interface forum introducing how to use combat "classes" hotbars to store the perform actions and using a macro to swap them in/out on your BRD. It works perfectly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zfz View Post
    There's a post in the User Interface forum introducing how to use combat "classes" hotbars to store the perform actions and using a macro to swap them in/out on your BRD. It works perfectly.
    And what to do if i have no unused classes? Still - this post is just a workaround and not like hard solution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imakun View Post
    My UI uses all 10 hotbars for all my jobs, it's impossible for me to use this feature. I understand you don't need ALL of the notes, but even for just messing around I simply have no space to use even a bunch of them.
    This wasn't well thought out and needs a specific UI element just for it.
    I'd like a specific UI, but when I get home from work I'm going to try to use my ARC hotbars specifically for this and use all 6. I think I can lay it out so all the sharps/flats will be on a higher hotbar so it somewhat resembles an actual piano.

    what sucks hard is the keybinding..
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    What gets me about the macro inability is that... in the stream where Yoshi showed it off, I could have sworn he had different singular notes macro'd to buttons for easier playing access when he performed Dragonsong. I remember 1 2 3 icons instead of these color buttons. Would be nice if we could at least macro them that much. :c
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaoru_Nagisa View Post
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    yep you are correct however they could of been placeholder icons used at the time but i have a feeling they cut the macros as they fear people would use this to recreate other songs and have copyright issues.
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