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  1. #1
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    Vidu's Avatar
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    Vidu Moriquendi
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Savagelf View Post
    I not, just think if yoshi P set up dungeon where you gather all you the mobs together and made so that by doing this it wipe entire party every time. humorous for him and his devs team but not for you. picture him threat make all the dungeons like this.

    ruin 3 cost more then ruin 2 does ruin 3 has longer cast time.

    mass pulls make harder on damger dealers first off. when i tanking i tried avoid doing these because I like be easy on everyone not just me. being a tank the focus in on you in group there no I in team also they nor tank in team when tank isn't will realize his relationship is focus work with group and function as symbioses relationship what benefit one benefit the others in group what work for group work for the tank.
    What are you even talking about at this point?
    You've started with complaining how someone gave you advice on samurai and flipped out over that and now you're trying to convince us that... I'm unsure - that advice should only be given to certain classes?

    (Also... someone coverd the summoner-part already, but let me just say: neither bard nor maschinst are "single target ranged" - both have suitable AoE and they're perfectly fine with dps on masspulls)

    As a maintank I'd also like to comment, that yes, it is indeed important to keep an eye out on wether or not a group can handle masspulls. Wether or not!
    Just making it standard to go slow and to pull only one group at a time, isnt a good solution either - each tank can hold aggro on 10 mobs as easy as on 3. No reason not to masspull if your group can handle it - your post sounds a lot like as if you're flat out refusing to do masspulls.

    However if this last segment was somehow related to that paladin who tried to be helpful (aka: he masspulled and your group wiped because you didnt contribute enough dps), let me just say: If someone whos got their job at level 70 doesnt know how to play it and how to handle single target vs. masspulls, I have little understanding for them.

    By now my best guess is that you didnt use your AoEs while the paladin tried to do big pulls, so they asked you to use your AoE...

    Quote Originally Posted by Savagelf View Post
    a troll isn't someone that offend you. or someone said something you don't like that not troll. troll are folks that said with planned to set people off. nether is my goal nor my plan i play ffxiv the was i like. see if I could define you as a troll because what your say could offend me. but it doesn't it difference of a opinion and your free to speak it.
    While I dont believe you're trolling here, you can easly come off as one - even by your own definition. You might not have noticed it, but you've touched on a somewhat sensitive subject with your whole "Dont give advice" - "Let me play how I want!" - "Its my sub, not yours!" - "I'm only here for fun!"-subject, because this attitude is something thats pissing people off. And for good reasons - its rude and selfish to behave this way in any form of group-content.
    So a troll could easly figure "Hey, if I want to trigger some people, a post like this will do!"
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    Last edited by Vidu; 11-22-2017 at 03:10 AM.

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    Rymm's Avatar
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    Rymmrael Bhaldraelwyn
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    What are you even talking about at this point?

    While I dont believe you're trolling here, you can easly come off as one - even by your own definition. You might not have noticed it, but you've touched on a somewhat sensitive subject with your whole "Dont give advice" - "Let me play how I want!" - "Its my sub, not yours!" - "I'm only here for fun!"-subject, because this attitude is something thats pissing people off. And for good reasons - its rude and selfish to behave this way in any form of group-content.
    I just want to quote this part to stress it and I'd give you more than one Like if I could. You managed to articulate everything I was thinking while reading his last few posts.

    The only thing I'll add is that I love AoE pulls on my BRD and at this point in the game there is not a single job (even including healers!) that does not have at least some form of decent AoE dps. Actively choosing not to utilize your skills makes you a drain on your group and it was absolutely not out of line for them to advise you to do something differently. I will admit there is some grey area here if they were rude or condescending, but offering advice to a player who is struggling (and by extension, making the group struggle) is not inherently bad!

    EDIT:
    Some posts got in before I finished mine, I see, and reading this now-
    Quote Originally Posted by Savagelf View Post
    I in fact remove bloodletter for my quick bar.
    I'm pretty certain we've been had. This guy has to be jerking us around intentionally.
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    Last edited by Rymm; 11-22-2017 at 04:13 AM.