I want to be a primal!

[Tsumdere]

This would be an awesome PvP mode.

It vaguely reminds me of the PvP mode in L4D2 where you could play as the zombies going after the survivors and the teams would take turns. Whoever got the farthest won (because it was hard to get to the end with human controlled zombies).

[Squintina]

And of course in addition to Primal vs players, gotta have Primal vs Primal(s).

[Sylvina]

I could see it working as long as there was no loot involved, otherwise it would be abused to the point of no return. Group A goes in to get their gear, player controlling said Primal is their friend/FC member, sits there and doesn't do anything. Also you would have to add timers all that to flesh out the being able to use. I could just imagine tho as a joke Titan jumping off the cliff and people just looking confused as hell, it would be a riot but I doubt it'll ever come to play.

This is indeed true as a similar game mode exists in another game i play and its abused out the wazoo like this and never used as intended.

[Nyxn607]

This .... this ... this Idea .... I love it. How fun would it be to be a premade 8 man group with your friends/fc mates and be able to see if they can kill you before you are able to destroy them as titan/sephirot/zurvan/levi ... etc. I think with Rando's it might be a little frustrating for the group of people. With FC mates or friends, you can literally turn it in to a competition to see who can be the best boss/primal.

[KaivaC]

So given that it looks like OP provided a truly awesome idea, let's keep this thread going and just keep our fingers crossed that the devs take notice and forward it by the time of the next Letter of the Producer.

[kikix12]

The player being able to ignore the aggro would actually give more of a reason for group play. And no, going after the healer single-mindedly wouldn't actually be instant-win, as the "monster" that's the player can still be kited, just like in PvP. Running around a healer that does nothing but run would end up trickling at the bosses life as the tanks and DPS's attack him unimpeded.

The special attacks would all have cooldowns, so it's more about changing the "script" than anything else. It's not like a player could cast cleave after cleave at the party. However, yes, their damage would need to be adjusted so that the aggro-based attacks that serve as AoE tank-busters (Shiva and her cleave being an example) wouldn't instant-wipe the party just cause they could be aimed now. It now would, however, be a game of the party spreading out thoughtfully to make the "primal" AoE as few of them as possible, instead of each standing wherever they please.

[Tzain]

What if it was "partial Control"

Like for instance, you couldn't control the targeting, but you could control some of the abilities. So it's a question of throwing a monkey wrench into the works at just the right moment.

side note: way back in EQ1 I was on the Fironia Vie RP server. And while in Mistmoore Castle grinding I see the boss get pulled out of the room and proceed to wipe the floor with everyone in the zone. So there I am, laying dead on the ground wondering how he came all the way out to the courtyard area when I see the boss mob yell "DING!". Turns out it was a GM who took manual control of the boss and knocked out everyone in the zone. He then global rezzed everyone.
Seriously, I loved those GMs.

[Squintina]

There are many ways to get over the boss being too strong (or too weak if it's on purpose) if it's a human, whether it's by using:
- Partial control
Picking a set of skills, but the AI still decides when/who to do it on
- Appropriate cooldown/timers
What, you mean I can't just do 3 titan jumps in a row?
- Keeping Aggro targeting rules
Because otherwise tank's job becomes almost useless
- The system keeps track of damage
And if you're doing nothing, it goes back to AI, mocks you, and puts you in observer mode, noob
- Making all regular players look the same with no way to see their skills
Gotta work hard to find them healers

SE can figure it out, as long as I get to be a powerful gigantic primal! Muahahahahaha!

[KaivaC]

Now that I've played Rival Wings for a bit...I am actually even more intrigued by the suggestion.

[MOZZYSTAR]

YEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

*MAKES PRIMAL RIGHT NOW*