DPS is the job of DPS.

[Ilan]

it is not the healers job. it is not the tanks job.

Should the healer and tank strive to do as much dps as possible? SURE! as long as they are also performing their actual job first and foremost. and their ACTUAL job should be the first thing people look at when looking for a tank or healer.

Just stop doing other stuff during a dungeon (watching netflix and so on) and you are perfectly able to do you main job AND dps. Seriously why is it so hard for people to use more than 3 buttons?

[Dualgunner]

Just stop doing other stuff during a dungeon (watching netflix and so on) and you are perfectly able to do you main job AND dps. Seriously why is it so hard for people to use more than 3 buttons?

Bonus points if you can tank, watch Netflix, AND DPS at the same time.

EDIT: While I do have netflix/youtube running when running dungeons, it's usually just background noise while the dungeon runs lol

[Hruodig]

Just stop doing other stuff during a dungeon (watching netflix and so on) and you are perfectly able to do you main job AND dps. Seriously why is it so hard for people to use more than 3 buttons?

op is someone who made a thread complaining about how hard blm was and decided they were going to go back to tanking, and then complained more when people explained that tanks are supposed to dps too. essentially they just want a free ride

[Ilan]

Bonus points if you can tank, watch Netflix, AND DPS at the same time.

EDIT: While I do have netflix/youtube running when running dungeons, it's usually just background noise while the dungeon runs lol

Sometimes i would've liked to watch something during a dungeon because the dps of the dps was so low that i almost fell asleep.

op is someone who made a thread complaining about how hard blm was and decided they were going to go back to tanking, and then complained more when people explained that tanks are supposed to dps too. essentially they just want a free ride

But BLM is hard if people always bring their AOE shit to you (in rabanastre) and force you to move and lose enochian.

[Shouko]

This game is becoming more n more like WoW mentality everyday it's getting scary.

Look if you want a party that speed runs content, healers that DPS and DPS that use AoE to their fullest extent then pop up a PF and put it into the description, instead of trying to force people to your way of playing.

[Squintina]

This game is becoming more n more like WoW mentality everyday it's getting scary.

Look if you want a party that speed runs content, healers that DPS and DPS that use AoE to their fullest extent then pop up a PF and put it into the description, instead of trying to force people to your way of playing.

I remember this mentality in WoW raids, but not as much in dungeons.
So, based on my personal experience (which doesn't amount to much as it's all anecdotal), I would be led to believe that FF14's mentality might actually be worse.
And considering what I've seen my husband, who always mains a tank in games he plays, encounter doing leveling dungeons & trials, it doesn't make it seem any better... :/

[Clicked]

I remember this mentality in WoW raids, but not as much in dungeons.
So, based on my personal experience (which doesn't amount to much as it's all anecdotal), I would be led to believe that FF14's mentality might actually be worse.

Pretty sure that WoW tanks have to focus more on mitigation because boss melee hits aren't fluff like in this game.

[Shouko]

I remember this mentality in WoW raids, but not as much in dungeons.
So, based on my personal experience (which doesn't amount to much as it's all anecdotal), I would be led to believe that FF14's mentality might actually be worse.
And considering what I've seen my husband, who always mains a tank in games he plays, encounter doing leveling dungeons & trials, it doesn't make it seem any better... :/

What I meant by the WoW mentality is the constant silence and need for faster runs, not talking to each other, pug everything and everything else. The game became far too hand me everything so i don't have to work for it mentality, if you played it in Vanilla it was a time waster, it took ages to get anywhere and we were fine with that. You had to earn your gear, aka dungeons only dropped blue, raids dropped purple, blues were extremely rare outside of a dungeon, purples were exceptionally rare.

[Dualgunner]

This game is becoming more n more like WoW mentality everyday it's getting scary.

Are you recently active on the forums? I see the 2013 join date, but only 26 posts, so I have to wonder.

I ask because the posts I've seen from you have largely been about how people talking about the metagame aspects of the game, such as wanting job balance and tank/healer damage is a bad thing that is detracting your enjoyment of the game. But you act like these are things that are recent.

This is the general state of these forums. The people here are constantly arguing over things like this. I don't know what WoW mentality is, and personally it doesn't matter to me.

I say this with no ill intent at all; but rather, genuine advice. If being on the forums is negatively impacting how you enjoy the game and its community...don't come to the forums. At least avoid the General Discussion, Tanks, Healers, and DPS forums, because what you see here is mostly all that the mentioned forums contain.

[Shouko]

Are you recently active on the forums? I see the 2013 join date, but only 26 posts, so I have to wonder.

Currently house sitting for my mom, which has spotty internet due to her location, because of this can't really play the game atm and so have been on the forums to see what the current state of people's mindset is. I don't take it personally nor am I attempting to change anyone, just adding my 2 cents.

WoW and this game are very much alike in the sense they started off great with the sense of a mmo community and having a challenge and working towards it, but over the years it's become this soulless game where nobody really talks, or helps as much, fights aren't explained or asked about most of the time, it's all about loot, and glamour, vanity to the extreme, etc.