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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    ... huh.. Until today I thought commode was synonymous with toilet. Apparently it's also like "dresser". Thank you weird translations for educating me today.
    While I find it annoying that a word that only means toilet to me is being used, the bigger problem I have is that it's already called a dresser in japanese. There was no need to use a different word.

    For example, the armoire is only called that in the english version, and I think multiple times when Yoshi has been asked questions about expanding the armoire to hold more items the question has been mistranslated or misinterpreted to mean adding more space to the armoury chest. So there could easily be another time in the future when Yoshi gets asked about expanding the commode and he doesn't know what that is because it's not called that in japanese and ends up thinking we want expanded communication modes or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fawkes View Post
    While I find it annoying that a word that only means toilet to me is being used, the bigger problem I have is that it's already called a dresser in japanese. There was no need to use a different word.

    For example, the armoire is only called that in the english version, and I think multiple times when Yoshi has been asked questions about expanding the armoire to hold more items the question has been mistranslated or misinterpreted to mean adding more space to the armoury chest. So there could easily be another time in the future when Yoshi gets asked about expanding the commode and he doesn't know what that is because it's not called that in japanese and ends up thinking we want expanded communication modes or something.
    huh, didn't know that. That'll actually affect future suggestions or questions I post since the vernacular may be different for arbitrary reasons.
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    The piece can no longer be used after being stored? Well dang. Guess I'll have to be careful what I toss in it or it'll be a pain getting it back depending on what it is, if I even can get it back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sekkei View Post
    The piece can no longer be used after being stored? Well dang. Guess I'll have to be careful what I toss in it or it'll be a pain getting it back depending on what it is, if I even can get it back.
    Can you think of anything you would need as actual gear again that you use to glamour?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    Can you think of anything you would need as actual gear again that you use to glamour?
    Try glamouring a relevant relic onto your tome/raid weapon. You can always get a glamour version when you upgrade to the next stage- well, not if it got flush down the glamour toilet. Have fun re-farming your relic again. That or wait for months til the next stage's release before you can glamour place the current stage of the relic into the glamour toilet.

    I believe the current words on the street is that you can remove the glamour items out from the glamour toilet, and I hope they are right. Items being consumed in order to be added into a glamour log has and will always be a ridiculously stupid idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SokiYagami View Post
    Try glamouring a relevant relic onto your tome/raid weapon. You can always get a glamour version when you upgrade to the next stage- well, not if it got flush down the glamour toilet. Have fun re-farming your relic again. That or wait for months til the next stage's release before you can glamour place the current stage of the relic into the glamour toilet.
    Good thing you'll still be able to glamour it the old fashioned way, then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    Afaik the old glam system is still in place. You can use prisms to make your weapon look like the relic without flushing it, and then flush the glam version later.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    Good thing you'll still be able to glamour it the old fashioned way, then.
    Which is why I strike through "glamour" and changed it to "place" before the both of you quoted me. Also, considering the old system will probably be phased out once the new system has matured and my reply was initially directed to krotoan, my point of "Items being consumed in order to be added into a glamour log has and will always be a ridiculously stupid idea." still stands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SokiYagami View Post
    Try glamouring a relevant relic onto your tome/raid weapon. You can always get a glamour version when you upgrade to the next stage- well, not if it got flush down the glamour toilet. Have fun re-farming your relic again. That or wait for months til the next stage's release before you can glamour place the current stage of the relic into the glamour toilet.

    I believe the current words on the street is that you can remove the glamour items out from the glamour toilet, and I hope they are right. Items being consumed in order to be added into a glamour log has and will always be a ridiculously stupid idea.
    I'm not sure what you mean here.. all stages of my relic weapon are available through simple purchases. and what do you mean "relevant?"
    Like the current stage? the.. 320 stage? I don't even remember what the last item level was for LUX. Relics haven't been cutting edge for a while. If you mean the next step for the weapon just.. don't commode the weapon? 1 item, 15 items tops. stick it in your chocobo bags.

    I'm guessing the item consumed thing may be some way of working around the back and forth data that equip-able items require.

    All this poo-pooing of the new system and we haven't even touched it yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    I'm not sure what you mean here.. all stages of my relic weapon are available through simple purchases. and what do you mean "relevant?"
    Like the current stage? the.. 320 stage? I don't even remember what the last item level was for LUX. Relics haven't been cutting edge for a while. If you mean the next step for the weapon just.. don't commode the weapon? 1 item, 15 items tops. stick it in your chocobo bags.

    I'm guessing the item consumed thing may be some way of working around the back and forth data that equip-able items require.

    All this poo-pooing of the new system and we haven't even touched it yet.
    By relevant I meant a new step of the relic, where the stats makes it worth using, in this case the SB relic on it's eventual release. You asked Sekkei for a case in which actual (I assume usable) gear is required again after you use it for glamour, hence I gave an example. I also mentioned why it's a bad idea, either you consumed the "actual" gear in the process and re-farm the thing (lol) if you don't wish to wait to glamour it, or you will need to be inconvenience by having to wait until the point where the gear become irrelevant (either by a glamour version ala relic replicate or new gear with higher ilvl).

    Doesn't it sound silly to you that a QoL upgrade is actually making one's life inconvenient instead? Sounds pretty counter-productive to me. And this isn't limited to the relic weapon only either. Any two/multiple stages gear would be affected by it, which include the latest tome gear and the rumored relic gear as well.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not simply trying to put down the new system before it's even release, I even pointed out that from what some players are saying, the gear wouldn't be consumed when you put them into the glamour toilet, in which I hope that they are right. I missed the LL stream and the English resources are prone to miscommunication due to translation issues, so I can't tell what would actually happen.

    All in all my concern is much more generalized in that we shouldn't be cutting corners and making compromises with regards to a QoL upgrade. Why should we take 3 steps forward and 2 steps back when we can just simply take 3 steps forward? What is this, we dancing in A11 now?

    Update: before you even get to it, yes, I'm aware this is the first experimental step for the new system. I'll be content so long that in the end when the new system has matured, or by the time they decided to remove the old system, items doesn't get consume as they are added into the "glamour log". Which in the first place, we also don't know if that would actually happen until 4.2. I just hope they won't.
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    I'm somewhat confused.
    "Certain items, such as those that can be stored in armoires, cannot be converted to glamours."
    So does that mean I can still glamour them the oldfashioned way or did they just remove those glamour options entirely?
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