It's past time, Yoshi-P...

[Tridus]

/laugh

Well, Hyomin has arrived. (/happy) But, where's Tridus and Seabazy? We are in the part of the debate where the thread troll just played the victim card.

Speaking of the victim card, I was helping a friend move. I mean, they bought dinner afterward, but carrying a sofa down from the fourth floor is... probably still more fun than another one of these threads, actually.

[Kacho_Nacho]

Speaking of the victim card, I was helping a friend move. I mean, they bought dinner afterward, but carrying a sofa down from the fourth floor is...

Tridus! /hug

OUCH! Hopefully, your muscles don't protest too much tomorrow. It's great your friend bought you dinner and all but still... ouch!

probably still more fun than another one of these threads, actually.

*snerk*

[Miste]

I'm glad Moro, Bourne, and Hyomin are here...because I am simply too tired to fully explain the issues with that "I'm a healer so I only need to heal attitude" again xD

[MoroMurasaki]

I'm glad Moro, Bourne, and Hyomin are here...because I am simply too tired to fully explain the issues with that "I'm a healer so I only need to heal attitude" again xD

And now you don't have to.

Also sometimes I think of copy/pasting posts of yours (in quotes of course) into these discussions since its almost always the same thing anyways.

Thanks for dropping by!

[Maeka]

Also, if she's on Primal (I think that's the 'center that Lamia is in?) or if she wants to watch a (somewhat bad video quality) stream of me healing, I can offer to help too.

Though if I do a video stream, I will warn that I'm a keyboard turner lol.

EDIT: Been meaning to do a recording of me healing anyways as keyboard turning has come up in discussions before and some peeps don't seem to understand how I can do it and not get hit with AoEs and junk.

[Kaethra]

And people think it's the raiders who are toxic...

Funny thing about that.. the ones in statics run with their statics or FC normally. They're not the ones pushing for DPS. So they're not the ones causing the problems the OP is bringing up, even though many in the thread say raiders are elitists lol.

I feel like 90% of the problems people like the OP have with dungeons could be solved by grouping with friends. Out of the last 100 or so dungeons I've ran (and this goes back as far as HW), I think I've had one bad apple in a group. Now take that chance and half it by grouping with a friend. Quarter it if running with 2 friends. And eliminate it with 3.

For trials and alliance raids, no one hardly talks and they're over before anyone can even read the logs. So they don't matter.

I made a suggestion in another thread, the one about 'what if the other DPS is low?' About how healers and tanks should run with a DPS on their server, even if they don't know them. It helps keep them from getting 2x apathetic DPS and quickens the run. Reason being is the person you're running with is more apt to do their role with effort since they've had some dialogue with a person they are grouped with.

This could work here. Group with -Someone-. It could be a random person on your server. Just say "I'm a Tank, I want to group with someone for x Roulette". You will get so many responses it will be ridiculous. And those players will likely not use parses or nasty remarks with you.

So there ya go OP, I've given you an EASY solution to your issue. Devs will be slow to react if they react at all to your plea at all. But my solution will help you NOW.

[Maeka]

-snip-

I dunno how it is on other Datacenters, but on Primal.... I have never gotten yelled at or kicked and I'm a bit of a lazy healer who only does some DPS and is nowhere near Raiding Quality. I can do duty finder junk like Omega, sure... but I'm not really the person to ask to go higher, lol.

But yet I still have my golden magitek armor, and I'm well on my way towards the next mount. Almost always get 1 commendation, quite often get 2 and a decent amount of 3s in my random experts.

No friends needed.

OP is either exaggerating, or he's on a datacenter full of nasty players, or he just sucks at his job and they're yelling at him for some other reason.

[Kaethra]

I dunno how it is on other Datacenters, but on Primal.... I have never gotten yelled at or kicked and I'm a bit of a lazy healer who only does some DPS and is nowhere near Raiding Quality.

I've only had one issue and that was in 3.3 with a DPS complaining about dying while standing in AOEs. They were kicked from the group when they wouldn't stop harassing me. Issue solved itself.

OP is either exaggerating, or he's on a datacenter full of nasty players, or he just sucks at his job and they're yelling at him for some other reason.

More like the former rather than the latter. There's little difference between servers and datacenters. The number playing this game is too high for segmented populations to have significant differences. They're more likely jumping on a forum bandwagon after perceiving the experience once.

Its kinda like being in a trial that requires a bit of a DPS check and if you say, "hey lets pick it up a bit" and 1 or 2 make nasty remarks like "you don't pay my sub" or "I'm reporting you for using addons!" And the only parsing you've done is watching a HP bar and using intuition to notice how long the fight has gone on. Yet those players will go to the forums about how they were abused.

Suggesting to a group to not wipe is considered abusive and reportable offenses to many.

[Hruodig]

Ah, a strategy I can identify with. I, too, go into the official guild wars 2 forums and demand that they adopt a strict trinity class system across all content.

[Maeka]

Ah, a strategy I can identify with. I, too, go into the official guild wars 2 forums and demand that they adopt a strict trinity class system across all content.

lol.

Why not make every single MMORPG exactly the same, then everybody can be a strict wow-clone, lol.

(/sarcasm, of course)

I don't get what goes through these peoples' minds, I mean, these kinda quirks are what separates games and gives you a reason to choose one over another. If the OP doesn't like how tanking&healing in XIV work, he's more than free to jaunt over on to Battle.net for example.