im the only one hate people get first kill with unsync?

[Claviusnex]

It doesn't bother me one way or the other. I started the game during HW and wanted to catch up with where folks were so I could get to content while current. If it hadn't been for unsync and to be honest WT I would not have gone back to run a lot of the ARR stuff. Not that I didn't try but when DF says Wait Time > 30 minutes you know it isn't going to happen. I look at it this way that unsync let me see and finish story lines I otherwise wouldn't and gives me the ability to farm old content I likewise wouldn't run synd'ed.

[Bobs]

I think all of this is moot.

Primals even when synded is easy now because of the ilvl. If you wanted the "true" experience you would have to have everyone downgrade their gear to what the highest ilvl it was when Primal EX first came out.

A smart person would just get to POTD as quick as possible and then get to 70. Then they could just solo all the low lvl dungeons that no one wants to do anymore. Including Primals if they want.

The gear grind is already annoying enough at 70 without a new person having to be forced to wait in a queue that will never pop. They need to get to Omega and Rabanastre, to get that weekly item. I took a small break and I feel way behind. It's just old content.

[Xerek]

I can understand the underlying sentiment. I always encourage my friends to try and make first-time runs synced, and I make every effort to make all my first-time runs synced. I know unsyncing removes a lot of the challenge, and in a way lessens the intensity of it. I know even if you go synced, that it will still feel much easier because of your higher iLvl weapons. In some ways that makes me sad. I know precious few people out there that haven't already done it will ever experience the sheer brilliance of the Brute Justice fight the way I did the day that Alexander - Midas (Normal) went live. It was a marathon, an ordeal, and that first kill felt so good. But if you don't go in synced at minimum iLvl, you'll never experience it like I did. I've recently run through it helping someone with a clear and we ran it unsynced. It...just felt like a ghost. There was no challenge, no stress, no panic, no adrenaline, and it went down far too quickly and easily. I can understand the belief that first-time content is best experienced synced.

...with that being said...

That is my opinion, how I feel, what I believe and how I act. Me. I have no right or desire to tell anyone else how to play the game, nor do I get to dictate to them how they will best enjoy it. I did suggest my friend try A8 synced, told them we could handle it, but in the end they just didn't want to fight with raid content and simply wanted to blow through it to see how the story line played out. And that's okay. I've run the Coils unsynced in the past with people under the same circumstance, no desire to raid, but an interest in the story. And let's be honest, the Coils have a phenomenal story.

How each person decides to take enjoyment from this game is up to them. You are welcome to have and voice an opinion, but if they are not directly impacting you, why is this such an issue?

[Sandpark]

Having played Mmo rpgs since the late 90s it's not a valid argument to say it's a genre that's not for me.

And it's not about having gear that lasts for infinity. It's about having gear and builds that actually feel like they're worth the effort to obtain and content to actually make use of it in.

One of the biggest complaints players have with this game is there's never anything to do. And that's incredibly true. There's an absolute ton of content yet only 1% is actually relevant and worth doing at any time. The rest of itn8s obsolete junk that could easily be deleted entirely and it make much of a difference to the game.

Compare that to older mmos. Where there was infinitely more to do and infinitely more relevant content at any given time. Even when new gear did come out and replace older gear it was a much slower and piece by piece process not blatant replacement of absolutely everything you own.

Progression was slower and yet players were never as bored as they now. Now it's log in do the expert Maybe a 24 man if you need the weekly and log out cos you've done everything there is to do.

It's also why players don't want to do older content. Let's take rabanastre presently. Players might be running that several times a day or even a week in the endless grind for there weekly loot drop. So by the time 4.2 lands many players will have ran rabanastre 2 maybe 300 times it's small wonder they're sick of it and can't wait to see the back of it. Yet right now it's literally the only thing there is do do outside of expert for many players.

The genre really isn't built for us old folks anymore. Only one game coming out now is being built with the old school mentality through out which is Pantheon as far as I know.

Gear has three outcomes in a vertical themepark. It either lasts, upgrades, or gets replaced. Lasts is about longevity in acquiring and lifetime usage. Upgrades were your things like Rajas ring from XI or earlier XIV with +1, +2, +3, etc. Replaced is the XIV meta. Content here is usually designed to last 3-6 months then gets replaced with brand new stuff, where as it's older sister was designed to last years.

This is a true themepark, a park full of different rides. If you only like bumper cars or the haunted house, then yeah things will seem futile. That junk is the sole reason why anyone does anything here, glamour.

Each content/ride has a a small peak then it diminishes. You ran content 300 times in those old mmos, it just didn't feel like it because everything progressed slower, and got strung out months or years. Whether that is a good or bad thing depends on the player. No one likes doing older content because it gets harder to get members the older a content gets and the rides here, as exciting as they can be at times, are designed to be dealt with in a predefined manner everytime.

No surprise enemies, no dynamic emnity tendencies, you dodge and do your perfect little rotation, and if you do it well, as long as your gear/ilvl isn't poopies, you win. I still got bored at times in older mmos, but with variations in how things played out with some of the things I listed, I got bored quite less.

This game is what it is and a recent interview about Eureka confirms that stance. The mantra here will never turn into an old school type mmo on the whole. Play what you like, love what you like, hate what you like, take a break, quit, never stop playing, but it is what is.

Yoshi is trying to give a ride in the spirit of what you ask. Will it be perfect? Probably not, but who knows. I am looking forward to Eureka personally. But I enjoy what is given now for what it is.

[Bacent]

Do you hate the people who can only play during the quiet hours of the server and need to do it unsync'd if they ever hope to clear it? There's a lot of people who have cleared it and refuse to do it sync'd, so just leave other people alone and hang out with your own clique if you hate others so much for playing differently.

[Canopia]

u dont learn the fight, no fun.

fun is subjective my friend. some people find slamming their heads against a brick wall to be fun, but personally I dont see the enjoyment. you cant expect SE to tailor the game solely to your idea of fun, because that will alienate an extremely large portion of their playerbase which will cost them sub money.

Personally I dont care if people get their first kill on old content unsynced. Ive killed a couple ex primals unsynced as my first kill, mainly because I didnt care to do extreme primals in the first place. Too many people like you who think you are better than everyone else and one minor mistake on a singular pull results in vein bulging anger. I dont find that sort of environment.... fun. I havent been in the mindset of finding content pushes fun for quite a number of years and have become more casual/midcore as Ive gotten older. Which makes me glad that SE likes to try to cater to all ranges of fun rather than going single mindedly towards the small percentage.

You want synced runs, then do synced runs, and Im sure the people killing it unsynced will probably stay in their unsynced runs, leaving you to your synced fun.

[Texa]

I get why it annoys some people but once a new expansion comes out people will forget their optimal rotation on lower levels. Stat weights will change, hotbar setups that were optimized for lower level play will change to work in new skills, and abilities that used to be a necessity will be removed. The majority of guides for content will come out while said content is still current and recommend things like scholar having stoneskin crossclassed or "You need x amount of accuracy to be able to hit x". The game is going to keep changing and adding brand new challenges to make up for older things becoming easier.

[Chiramu]

Wouldn't mind it so much if unsynced removed any rewards.

This is my issue with people grinding mounts in unsynced. It completely makes all your raid gear irrelevant when unsynced comes around, there is no bragging rights, so there is no point to do content when it comes out, just wait till you can unsync and get your things with less annoyance.

[Zarabeth]

Oh boo hoo. Wahhhh the other kids get to play with my toys. Grow up. Play the way you like and let others play the way they like.

[BillyKaplan]

This is my issue with people grinding mounts in unsynced. It completely makes all your raid gear irrelevant when unsynced comes around, there is no bragging rights, so there is no point to do content when it comes out, just wait till you can unsync and get your things with less annoyance.

But you can only run something unsynced when the next expansion hits, which means you're about 10 levels higher and your gear is at least 100 ilvls higher, two things that kind of matter even when you're synced down to level. But by then the weapons are already irrelevant because it's not your on-level gear - and that's before the fact that with the exception of the very final content tier of the expansion, raid gear becomes outdated within its expansion so that point is moot to begin with. By the time you can unsync this, anyone who ran the content when it was relevant has had several months at least to enjoy bragging rights, running around on their mounts with their glamour weapons, flaunting off their bragging rights, and the clock is already ticking for the UCOB's World First party. Who cares if I'll clear it too once 5.0 hits? Who'll even remember this content by then?