im the only one hate people get first kill with unsync?

[SeranaEclipse]

did you ever sucess a raid? and you was like "yes i did it" ?

You have not even done the new one, you don't even have gear to do any new relevant content to gain the titles you claim to want to protect but so clearly are just salty that other people can get the 'meaningless' tittles/mounts/minions that at some point you had to work for as many others have stated old and outdated content.


Edit:I know it is not the subject but from my view, the OP is coming back to the game not having put the effort in when the content was relevant and being upset that not everyone wants to do more work for something that is outdated, those same people that farm birds daily when relevant now farm exes and savage and coil, people do not have the energy or time to sync ever last primal for what can take up to 50+ runs before the mount even drops and it has nothing to do with learning the fight. (All tho i know some people like to play hit the aoe and take as many as they can in a row sometimes)

[BillyKaplan]

its just annoying to see how people overrole this while dont even know wahts to do in there.

You make it sound like they're cheating when it's something the devs decided on.

horses was rly rare and cool, and i dont like people can get it easy now

Newsflash, they moved the goalposts. Kirin doesn't make you cool anymore, the dogs do. And this entire thread sounds like you being upset you took a break while your trophies were relevant and came back when they weren't, so you want them to be rare again. Tough break.

for me a mmorpg has to be long and difficult, tahts why i play this game.

For how much you complain about what goes on in this game, are you sure you should continue playing it? Just a thought. Maybe then you'd stop wanting everyone else to have as little fun as you're obviously having, seeing Kirins left and right and giving yourself an ulcer over it.

[Vidu]

did you ever sucess a raid? and you was like "yes i did it" ?
do you have this feeling while do ramuh/ titan or raids in less mins with lvl 70 dont even get dmg to die? im surely not. you cant say "i did it" bcs u dont even know mechanics there.

I've been playing since ARR-beta - and I've cleared every EX-primal when it was more or less recent content. I've got all my horses before HW and all my birds before SB (aka: in synched parties). My raid-group back then just managed to clear T13 a week before HW and yes, that was a lot of "YES! We did it!" in our TS back then. But non of that affects your game-experience just as much as it wouldnt affect your game-experience if I'd gotten all of that within the last two weeks in unsyched parties. (Or that I'm now unsyching that content for my Khloe-book or for bird-farms for friends.)

If someone prefers not to have this "Yes! I really did it and managed to clear this difficult fight!"-moment and just get their clear and/or items, that doesnt ruin anything for you. Its their right to "break" the game (within the limits the game allows you, obviously) and if thats more fun to them, why not let them have that fun?
Its great that you enjoy a challenge and that you like the ones the game is offering you - doesnt mean that everyone has to share this sentiment and who are you to tell them "NO! You're not allowed to enjoy this content your way! My way is the only right way!"

The only thing thats affected are your little shiny status-symbols - aka the mounts (and maybe weapons - seeing how they can be crafted as prettier version though... not really) - and if its bothering you that someone can go and farm for them with less time investment, all I can say is: Get over yourself.
No one is hurting you by running this content unsyched - you dont have to do that, if you dont want to.

[Alleo]

did you ever sucess a raid? and you was like "yes i did it" ?
do you have this feeling while do ramuh/ titan or raids in less mins with lvl 70 dont even get dmg to die? im surely not. you cant say "i did it" bcs u dont even know mechanics there.

Yes I did all of Bahamut after T5 unsynch for my first kill. And it was still fun, it still took some skill to win and yes I still was happy when we killed them. I still have great respect for all those people that do the raids when they are still recent. At the same time all those people are already able to show of their mounts/titles/minions for a long time since you can only unsynch the old things when a new expansion hits.

Nobody is forced to do things synch or unsynch so people still can kill stuff like it was meant to be..but at the same time if you did not do it from the start your ilvl will already make the fight easier. Also lets not forget that you dont need to unsych it with 8 people. You can still have a challenge if you go with only four or five people. Heck a friend did T13 with him as a tank and her as a healer and this is far from easy.

If we would be forced to do the content synch for the first time before we can unsynch it, I really hope that you are still understanding of new people, if you dont need the primal anymore and will help out newer players to clear the fight, even if that might mean hours of learning and wiping. Also theoretically if you want to earn the mount/title/minions like the first people did..wouldnt that mean that anyone in there that already cleared it makes it easier for you thus you also did not need the work that the first people did? Are you reading guides? Are you only going in with new people to truly learn the fight or are you hoping for players that already cleared it?

[Keicho]

You have not even done the new one, you don't even have gear to do any new relevant content to claim the titles you claim to want to protect but so clearly are just salty that other people can get the 'meaningless' tittles/mounts/minions that at some point you had to work for that, are again as many others have stated old and outdated content.

well. you are funny.
i killed t9 with ilvl 110 as war solo tank, which was nearly imposible. you dont want know how often we tried to kill it. the last phase as war was pain. the tank buster every heal had to shild me. i had to use 2 or beter 3 cds to not die, while we had to do this shit mechanics there. when i managed the cds wrong by the adds before, or i had to use another cd bcs the healer wasnt can heal me the time it was often over. taht was difficult. not taht like today raids are.
i killed t9 savage years ago before lvl 60 cames out, which only few people had without paying the kill.
i did every raid, primae, to lvl 60 a1s to 4s. then i had a long break bcs it was to easy.
i mean, for t5 i need around 1 or 2 week to sucess with my group.
a1s to a4s on lvl 60 i needed only a single week.
so i had a break since begin lvl 60 to now. bcs it was to easy, it wasnt the challange anymore i had before. but other games are boring to so i got back now.

[SeranaEclipse]

well. you are funny.

Thanks! i try! But really past achievements aside, have you beat any savage? new raid? coil? Ult coil aint easy.... lvl up put the work in and do that like everyone else who wants hard content rather then complain about old content you want to sync for no other reason then personal gratification and if that is the case, more power to you! find a group to do it with you, but you should not be on the forums complaining about a system that has kept old content at least sometimes played in farm groups and for newbies to experience that they would never be able to otherwise.

[Keicho]

how much playtime do you have? i have 151 days playtime, with over a year break.

and waht i heard from my friends saying the new raid isnt even taht hard than before, no dps checks (or to easy). years ago u had to do massiv dmg while do the mechanics. thats why i mean it gets more casual.

well have fun with you no funny raid kills, im sure you cant even beat t5 with lvl 70^^ bcs you guys are attenuated from easy 2min kills with lvl 70.

Newsflash, they moved the goalposts. Kirin doesn't make you cool anymore, the dogs do.

well i think yxou dont get waht i want to say. kirin would you make cool still when you wouldnt can do it with lvl 70 (only lvl 50) and they didnt increases drop rate from (old 1-5% to new 20-50% or so)^^ tahts my problem with it.
i cant get why i should spend my time NOW to do the raids, primaes if i can do it in a year in 1 week bcs they do everything casual.^^
but i think i speak against a wall here, a wall full off newbie players or lazy people dont want learn fights or farm.
a lvl 50 primae to farm was early only 5-6 mins to with a good group. isnt rly a diferent. well, u had to learn. lazy peoples.^^

[Vidu]

well i think yxou dont get waht i want to say. kirin would you make cool still when you wouldnt can do it with lvl 70 (only lvl 50) and they didnt increases drop rate from (old 1-5% to new 20-50% or so)^^ tahts my problem with it.
i cant get why i should spend my time NOW to do the raids, primaes if i can do it in a year in 1 week bcs they do everything casual.^^

Because you're doing it for the challenge? For the fun you get out of playing this content how its supposed to be? Like you claim you do... or are you just in for the bragging rights after all?
Make up your mind! Do you enjoy the challenge and the game for itself - or just because you can shove it into peoples faces what you've achieved in the game?

[BillyKaplan]

i cant get why i should spend my time NOW to do the raids, primaes if i can do it in a year in 1 week bcs they do everything casual.^^

Then you don't really want the challenge, just the ability to shove it in people's faces.

but i think i speak against a wall here, a wall full off newbie players or lazy people dont want learn fights or farm.

No need to start insulting people just because we (and the devs) disagree with you

[Keicho]

Years ago i was can go in RANDOM dungeon finder and killed t5 nearly, titan or ramuh was realy good increased and they was rly hard to kill this old times, when i go NOW into a primae, or raid. we wipe after few secs bcs no one try to learn, just to role over. no one want to do sync anymore, bcs its to annyoing for them. i dont want do unsync. its boring and just overrole. idk waht SE doing there, but when iw ould be the developer i wouldnt unsync doable.^^ ONLY when then u cant get title/mounts.

but i think my thoughts are too high for you guys.

well, it isnt my game. SE can do waht ever they want. when they want their raids and primae they developed rly hard to get this close calls mechanics and let us overrole them. okay.

i think im the only one want challange. sad tahts why every game gets easier since 2005 or waht ever looks like SE start like the same.

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